Patriots in control?
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Even so, I'm not sure this is the equivalent of shouting "fire" in a crowded theater. We do have freedom of speech. I'm a bit bothered by this even though the recipient deserves it and is only experiencing the kind of government she's fighting for.
Shouting fire in a crowded theater should be legal. STARTING a fire in a crowded theater is only legal for leftists.
I get your sentiment. The reasoning being that inciting panic with a statement implying immediate danger in a crowd causes a stampede with causes death and injury. The person shouting it is responsible for those deaths. Inciting hurt feelings however, is not the same thing. The recipient in that case is responsible for reacting responsibly since there is no IMMEDIATE danger implied.
Exactly, it's not the words that are illegal, in that sense it's the 'call to action' that makes the difference, in that context the call to escape, which creates a hazard for the people trying to leave.
It wouldn't be a problem if there was a fire, in which case the call to action is justified.
At the end of the day its not the person who shouted fire that trampled the children and women on the way to the exit.
EXAXTLY. you are responsible- and so am I- for our actions, or reactions, to someone yelling "fire."
That shouting fire in a crowded theater argument is stupid and misleading. Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater is legal. Being protected from the consequences because muh First Amendment is not.
I’m curious as to why you believe that.
The reason that shouting fire is illegal is because people justifiably take extreme actions when they believe they’re in danger.
A person running from a fire might start breaking out a window or trample others in order to escape.
Imagine that you walk into a mall and shout, “he’s got a gun!” Then three CC civilians pull out guns and see each other, with guns.
You think the potential accidental violence resulting from this isn’t your fault? You have no responsibility for tricking people into an extreme action to defend their own life?
It is NOT illegal. Yes we get that weird have meaning, but ACTIONS have consequences. Nobody gets trampled by the words. Only by the feet of the reactionary who steps on someone's face/ribs. Are you admiring you can't control your reactions and are quick to join the stampeding mob?
Why that'd be like the president of the US calling all Muslims terrorists... would you really excuse all the other countries who bombed the middle east after 9/11 as just "justifiably take extreme actions" or are they all complicit in going along with an obvious ruse to ensure cheap oil and a continuity of their own power?
The "shouting fire in a crowded theater" mantra came from an offhand analogy by justice Oliver Wendell Holmes in a 1919 Supreme Court decision, Schenck v. United States. That decision was overturned in 1969, Brandenburg v. Ohio.
The Schenck decision also gave us the nebulous "clear and present danger" limit by the government on free speech/press/assembly which was replaced by the Brandenburg decision with "imminent lawless action." With the Brandenburg test, the government has to prove three elements: intent, imminence and likelihood.
It's definitely not the equivalent of shouting "fire" in a crowded theater. I don't think it rises to the legal definition of incitement to riot either.
Is OP a leader that people look up to? How many people are going to go out and burn a government building down because of OP's tweet? If OP's tweet warrants such a threatening letter from DHS then why does Maxine Waters get a pass?
If MW's comments are allowed because she's a "Government Official" then does that mean it's acceptable for the Government to incite violence on a group of citizens?
People are more likely to follow Maxine Waters' call to violence than some random tweeter, because she is a "respected leader" so Waters needs to be even more careful about her words, but people have the responsibility to digest OP's words of anger, recognize them for what they are, and not do anything stupid, even though they may want to. On a side note, I wonder what OP would think if she found out many MAGA people are actually in agreement with her regarding her reaction to the letter?