Patriots in control?
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I couldn’t agree more. I’m more liberal than anyone here when it comes to gun control stuff, and I also find red flag laws make me uneasy in many contexts. I am not against gun ownership in general, and believe in the right of people to defend themselves with guns, and do not like the idea of any right being taken away under loosey-goosey interpretations of what makes someone dangerous.
That being said, conservatives often point to mental health problems as the real culprit, not guns.
And down that path, we therefore logically see mental health professionals being the ones to flag people, and I know Q people tend not to trust psychologists for a number of reasons, including Q’s apparent warnings about therapists.
So if we can’t flag people with mental health issues because mental health professionals aren’t trustworthy diagnosticians, then I’m not really sure I know what the answer is supposed to be in keeping guns out of crazy people’s hands.
Yep, and to add to that point, every time there's a shooting and we find out that the FBI knew about all the "red flags" that were present but chose not to act -- heck, the Uvalde crisis is a perfect example of this -- we wonder just what the system is designed to do when the authorities did nothing when they could have. Of course, my theory will always be that they allow such events to happen on purpose, in order to push nefarious legislation aimed at curbing civil liberties.
There's a reason why the "always has been" meme is a thing. Governments allowing or grooming psychopaths to commit atrocities so they can prove a point about needing more government surveillance, intervention and restrictions in the name of "safety"? Color me shocked with my surprised Pikachu face!
My take on the "don't trust psychologists" statement is based off what I see currently from the industry, and how heavily it's been corrupted and politicized, especially pertaining to cultural issues such as transgenderism and other hot topics. Infiltration from the top-down means that we face an uphill battle. We must also look at the role that psychoactive medications like antidepressants, SSRIs, etc. play in committing crimes.
‘They allow such events on purpose’ uvalde shooting. Disgusting. Just heard today from buck sexton that’s there were 376 cops present. One tried to rush in because his wife was inside, they tackled and disarmed him. Disgusting hollow suits following orders when lives were on the line.
So I’m not at the point where I believe that psychologists are actively creating mass shooters in support of a political or criminal narrative yet. I am more convincable with LE, but am not convinced it’s hard enough for crazy people to get guns to REQUIRE false flags to see what we see.
There are plenty of guns, and plenty of crazy people, and few barriers between them. Of course mass shootings will happen, with or without false flag involvement.
But that’s fine. I agree with enough of what you’ve written. And I certainly won’t dissuade you from keeping an eye on the medical and mental health fields. It would be awkward for me to embrace my own skepticism if I didn’t feel comfortable with anyone else’s.
That's fair, Fren. We've already seen enough politicization and political pressure to change definitions of words and seemingly re-write existing known biological science in favor of some other clown world bullshit, so I think anything's possible.
My focus is on the role of big pharma in the "problems for profit" model they seem to enjoy running. It's easier to talk to someone for 30 minutes and then hand them a voucher for some pills. We need to assess the rise in pharmaceuticals and what's going on with society that can't be fixed simply by drugging someone up. This isn't a new problem, but it seems it's gotten worse in the last 15 years or so. I'm no expert but my spider senses tell me our media information overload and technological bombardment is resulting in a form of tangible psychosis that certain industries see as a moneymaking opportunity.
Here are some links I gathered that may provide good food for thought for you to consider:
https://www.psychreg.org/antidepressants-ssri-mass-shootings/
https://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/
https://thoughtcatalog.com/jeremy-london/2019/09/37-mass-shooters-who-were-on-antidepressants/
https://www.drugawareness.org/school-shootings-the-evidence-antidepressants-are-the-cause/
I will add them to my reading list.
I am not anti-psych meds, but I have more than enough reasons to keep a close eye on them.
I remember in the days before 2016 when I used to have discussions like this with my conservative friends on Facebook all the time. Nostalgic.
What are your thoughts on this story?
https://newspunch.com/fbi-mentally-ill-son-right-wing-terrorist/
The first thing I notice is that the story relies entirely on two sources:
The letter from the parents insisting the FBI knew about the schizophrenia.
“Federal documents” proving that FBI agents knew about the schizophrenia.
This story was from 2017, so those documents must have existed for a while, but they are not linked in the story that is relying on them, for some reason.
I went hunting for the documents on my own.
https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-varnell-8/
This is the only mention of schizophrenia in these documents:
So, everything in the document that concerns schizophrenia specifically makes the case that the FBI didn’t know and wouldn’t necessarily have known if he wasn’t in mid-episode.
Which is the opposite of what your source claimed.
Of course, the FBI could be lying, no question, but then, it’s just a “he said, she said” with the parents, with no proof on either side, and I can’t take sides without proof.
Now, perhaps your source meant a different set of documents as proof, but since they didn’t provide that proof, and I already tried and failed to provide that proof for them, I’m not really sure where else I can go from here.
To be clear, you won’t bait me into defending the FBI or distasteful practices, but my willingness to accept they could have done this is far more generous than my willingness to accept that this did happen, based purely on your source.