To me, this is one of the main reasons western marriage and birthrates are declining and why incels only exist in western society on the large scale we see. Men are visual creatures, most of our attraction and sexual desire stems from a woman's looks. There just aren't enough attractive western women to meet the demand of men and it has put it all out of balance. Western women, generally, just don't put effort into their appearance, into their health, and into attracting a mate and it leaves a large number of men vying for a small number of women.
It only takes a few percentage points difference to skew the dating balance, but this is far greater than a few percentage points. While both men and women are getting fatter, women's attraction towards men isn't as physically based as it is for men towards women.
Besides, most every gym I've gone to in US is about 90% men and 10% women. The gyms I've gone to in developing nations are much more balanced 60/40 or 50/50. Women just care about this more in non-western countries and because of that there are more attractive women to go around per capita, and incels don't exist. Population decline doesn't exist. Obviously there is more to it than this, but this is a giant factor.
There is a reason you see attractive women with objectively unattractive men far more frequently than the reverse. Women can meet a man they don't find attractive then start to view them as attractive if he has the personality traits that are attractive to her. Of course looks matter, but just not as much to women. Confidence, a leader, charming, good job, etc are what can make a physically less attractive man become super attractive. Also other factors, like a woman will become more attracted to a man if she finds out other women find him attractive. But you're right there is also a problem for women not having enough high value men, but it is more to do with lack of masculinity.
Sort of like you said, men are too feminine and women are too masculine, and this is a recipe for a society that leads to where we are now. Also good point that obesity makes people less fertile.
I had an acquaintance who wasn't very handsome but he had a 12" dick (really) and this made him super confident. He was amazingly successful in attracting women but I think it was more because of his confidence than his trouser python. (One of his girlfriends complained to me that sex with him was really painful.)
To me, this is one of the main reasons western marriage and birthrates are declining and why incels only exist in western society on the large scale we see. Men are visual creatures, most of our attraction and sexual desire stems from a woman's looks. There just aren't enough attractive western women to meet the demand of men and it has put it all out of balance. Western women, generally, just don't put effort into their appearance, into their health, and into attracting a mate and it leaves a large number of men vying for a small number of women.
It only takes a few percentage points difference to skew the dating balance, but this is far greater than a few percentage points. While both men and women are getting fatter, women's attraction towards men isn't as physically based as it is for men towards women.
Besides, most every gym I've gone to in US is about 90% men and 10% women. The gyms I've gone to in developing nations are much more balanced 60/40 or 50/50. Women just care about this more in non-western countries and because of that there are more attractive women to go around per capita, and incels don't exist. Population decline doesn't exist. Obviously there is more to it than this, but this is a giant factor.
There is a reason you see attractive women with objectively unattractive men far more frequently than the reverse. Women can meet a man they don't find attractive then start to view them as attractive if he has the personality traits that are attractive to her. Of course looks matter, but just not as much to women. Confidence, a leader, charming, good job, etc are what can make a physically less attractive man become super attractive. Also other factors, like a woman will become more attracted to a man if she finds out other women find him attractive. But you're right there is also a problem for women not having enough high value men, but it is more to do with lack of masculinity.
Sort of like you said, men are too feminine and women are too masculine, and this is a recipe for a society that leads to where we are now. Also good point that obesity makes people less fertile.
I had an acquaintance who wasn't very handsome but he had a 12" dick (really) and this made him super confident. He was amazingly successful in attracting women but I think it was more because of his confidence than his trouser python. (One of his girlfriends complained to me that sex with him was really painful.)
100% agree!