Bible Verse Of The Day
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Paul is not a liar. You are. It is clear to me that you came here with the intent to be contentious and not to have a good faith discussion.
P.S. "of whom I AM chief."
Not I was. I AM. Words matter. Language matters. Don't play stupid games with me. The only false doctrine here is your own.
Yes, read the verses right above, he is talking about his past. Paul is a preacher of righteousness, he knows what it is to be the chiefest of sinners, but he darn sure was no longer the cheifest of sinners, neither are you.
You can't be righteous and a sinner, it's a contradictory in terms, bow maybe you don't understand righteousness, ao you think you can be both at the same time.
I have no doubt you still have a flesh and so do I, but we don't live by the flesh, we mortify it, we(our flesh) is crucified with Christ.
Now you want to call me ill intended because I talk doctrine with you? Grow up my friend.
When you start bandying about with hyperbolic rhetoric and claiming that my argument (based solely on Paul's writing) is based on false doctrine, do you really expect me to take that in good faith? You should have realized that you were taking it too far. That's not talking doctrine, it is starting a fight. Perhaps you are the one who needs to do some growing.
I will only make this one last post, because I feel that you are trying to waste my time.
My last argument comes from my first post.
Paul says this: "15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me."
He is speaking in present tense. He says that "what I AM DOING (sinning) I do not understand. For what I WILL TO DO" (righteous deeds), that I do not practice; But WHAT I HATE (sin), THAT I DO.
Tell me this: If he (in present tense) does not do the good that he wants to do and DOES do the EVIL (SIN) he does not want to do, what does that make him? A SINNER! Sinners sin. If you sin you are a sinner. Paul says that he is continuing to sin, even though he is walking in the spirit. If you say otherwise you are either lying to me or to yourself.
He is still justified by Christ's blood, of course. But he is still a sinner. Because he still sins.
This is not He USED to be a sinner. This is a 100% absolute verifiable certainty that he is still sinning because he says so in plain language.
I am not righteous, and neither are you. We are imputed Christ's righteousness. It is not our righteousness that saves us. It is HIS.
Romans 3:10
As it is written:
“There is none righteous, no, not one;
Chapter 7 is explaining how the flesh works in us, chaper 8 explains how to mortify the deads of the flesh, quit fighting to stay in sin, come out of sin, the way has been made for you by the Spirit. Stop calling yourself a sinner.
Paul, like you and me still has a flesh, in chaper 7 he is explaining how it works. In chapter 8 he explains how it is defeated. You can still walk in the flesh, then you are sinning, Paul explains that we walk according to the Spirit and are free from the power sin and death. You are not a sinner, your flesh is, now you do put to death the flesh, by the Spirit. You're not a sinner.
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