I deal in AG I see where you're going not the case here in SW Idaho, yeah there are a few corporate farms. Mostly family farms with hired men. Farming requires more acreage than it used to. Many of the old small farms lease out to the bigger farms now. I want to say 1000 acres minimum to make it work now days, most guys are in the 2000-3000 acre range now, parcels scattered everywhere.
Sure thing BTW the two corporate farms I deal with are an absolute shit show. On a side note in these parts many of the Ranches have been slowly gobbled up by corporations/investment companies though. Some of those also serve as hunting retreats for rich people.
Bullshit. Large tractors mean mega-farms? What does that mean? Can small families not own mega farms anymore? I come from a farm family. Family owned farm. They have huge tractors. They’re successful, lots of land.
Seriously, what kind of observation is this really?
A small farm isnt small when they have many hundreds or thousands of acres...I'm not against big farms, but I don't see a lot of protesting going on here in solidarity with the farmers protesting in Europe etc...
Just as tired of hearing the small farm card being played...
Apparently your definition of small farms is different than mine, but I lived abroad where almost all the rural people are small farmers with land where they grow food for their families and have some cash crops to cover their need for a bit of cash.
A long time ago there was a big push to add a 5 cents a pound tax on Sugarcane to help clean up the Everglades polution. I'm not for or against that, but the ads against the tax portrayed how the small farmer would be hurt. What small farmers? 3 families own all of it.
Again i'm not against big farmers, they were smart and sucked on the government subsidy teat. Therefore under control by the government, which can punish them if they don't toe the line.
By the way Scarecrow by John Mellencamp is a favorite tune of mine, and expresses the plight of farmers quite nicely,
Yea, but here's the thing, 100 acres should be enough to earn a great living, and its not. Why? Because the tentacles of the cabal elite take over as soon as it leaves the farm. Its a shame...
I researched mango farming in the Philippines around 8 years ago, there was a small orchard for sale in my wife's province. Basicly the farmers get 10% and the wholesalers, and retailers get 90%. Farmers have to sell their products fast and corporations take advantage, then through in government and it becomes a nightmare. They pass produce through their hands of as many corporations they own getting a cut at each stage. California and Florida swap Oranges... Thats if they aren't imported from some shithole country.The result for consumers is bad as well,less fresh and higher prices.
You might want to familiarize yourself more with American agriculture then. Most all of the farms are owned by families. There’s far more land in America to be farmed than elsewhere in the world. There’s entire farm towns and counties where absolutely everyone is either a farmer or rancher or trucker.
You named one country, and the only country, with comparable arable land to the US and Canada. But no, it isn’t “a lot more”. What is your point? You’re really just stretching to argue now.
I deal in AG I see where you're going not the case here in SW Idaho, yeah there are a few corporate farms. Mostly family farms with hired men. Farming requires more acreage than it used to. Many of the old small farms lease out to the bigger farms now. I want to say 1000 acres minimum to make it work now days, most guys are in the 2000-3000 acre range now, parcels scattered everywhere.
Good info!
Sure thing BTW the two corporate farms I deal with are an absolute shit show. On a side note in these parts many of the Ranches have been slowly gobbled up by corporations/investment companies though. Some of those also serve as hunting retreats for rich people.
Good to know, we do not need corporate farms.
Bullshit. Large tractors mean mega-farms? What does that mean? Can small families not own mega farms anymore? I come from a farm family. Family owned farm. They have huge tractors. They’re successful, lots of land.
Seriously, what kind of observation is this really?
A small farm isnt small when they have many hundreds or thousands of acres...I'm not against big farms, but I don't see a lot of protesting going on here in solidarity with the farmers protesting in Europe etc...
Just as tired of hearing the small farm card being played...
Apparently your definition of small farms is different than mine, but I lived abroad where almost all the rural people are small farmers with land where they grow food for their families and have some cash crops to cover their need for a bit of cash.
A long time ago there was a big push to add a 5 cents a pound tax on Sugarcane to help clean up the Everglades polution. I'm not for or against that, but the ads against the tax portrayed how the small farmer would be hurt. What small farmers? 3 families own all of it.
Again i'm not against big farmers, they were smart and sucked on the government subsidy teat. Therefore under control by the government, which can punish them if they don't toe the line.
By the way Scarecrow by John Mellencamp is a favorite tune of mine, and expresses the plight of farmers quite nicely,
Yea, but here's the thing, 100 acres should be enough to earn a great living, and its not. Why? Because the tentacles of the cabal elite take over as soon as it leaves the farm. Its a shame...
I researched mango farming in the Philippines around 8 years ago, there was a small orchard for sale in my wife's province. Basicly the farmers get 10% and the wholesalers, and retailers get 90%. Farmers have to sell their products fast and corporations take advantage, then through in government and it becomes a nightmare. They pass produce through their hands of as many corporations they own getting a cut at each stage. California and Florida swap Oranges... Thats if they aren't imported from some shithole country.The result for consumers is bad as well,less fresh and higher prices.
You might want to familiarize yourself more with American agriculture then. Most all of the farms are owned by families. There’s far more land in America to be farmed than elsewhere in the world. There’s entire farm towns and counties where absolutely everyone is either a farmer or rancher or trucker.
Er... Russia has a lot more farm land, but unused.
You named one country, and the only country, with comparable arable land to the US and Canada. But no, it isn’t “a lot more”. What is your point? You’re really just stretching to argue now.
https://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~kimball/Field.ggr.htm
Look at satellite imagery, Russia has huge ammounts of green.
Read the link.
Talking farmers or homesteaders? Im in AG as well. Big machinery is a must.
I'm going through this at the moment - https://www.backtoedenfilm.com/#/
Small farms in Europe are very close to their market....