Indeed. MGTOW are often lumped together with incels, but I've found that this couldn't be further from the truth - most guys who end up identifying as MGTOW have had truly awful experiences with marriage. They've been around the block.

Sure, you might find a few outliers--usually young men lacking in life experience--who get stuck on "red pill rage." Some of them may even have a real hatred of women. But I don't think that's representative of MGTOW at all.