What is this thread all about?
Just a place for general discussion. A place to unload whats on your mind and talk about anything - personal, health, help needed, achievements, daily highs and daily lows, theories, predictions and what have you.
Does not need to be Q related.
Here's a question that's been on my mind lately...
As a nation, are we here BECAUSE of our Constitution, or IN SPITE of our Constitution? "In Spite of our Constitution," implies that the failing of our nation as a whole...the great American Exceptionalism experiment in self-governance...has occurred not to any great degree because of the government said Constitution has given us, but because our Federal Constitution was simply not obeyed or administered properly. The more I study from and read those titles that are not talked about and we are not supposed to read (e.g. - The Anti-Federalist Papers and the Articles of Confederation for instance), the more I am inclined to believe that we are in the clutches of a literal Banana Republic BECAUSE of our Constitution...
Patrick Henry clearly understood the nightmare our future would become for our posterity should our current Constitution be adopted and he fought hard to bring to light his fears for our nation's future. In Anti-Federalist #40, Patrick Henry said,
"What then are we to think of the motives and designs of those men who are urging the implicit and immediate adoption of the proposed government; are they fearful, that if you exercise your good sense and discernment, you will discover the masqued aristocracy, that they are attempting to smuggle upon you under the suspicious garb of republicanism? When we find that the principal agents in this business are the very men who fabricated the form of government, it certainly ought to be conclusive evidence of their invidious design to deprive us of our liberties. The circumstances attending this matter, are such as should in a peculiar manner excite your suspicion; it might not be useless to take a review of some of them."
Regardless what you believe about my premise, the fact is, we are indeed on the brink of falling fully into the grips of totalitarianism the likes of which mankind has never faced before AND many of our most notable Founders (Patrick Henry being just one), clearly predicted that because of the power given to the newly formed Federal Government and the way the new Constitution was written, almost every conceivable tyranny available to the would be tyrant(s) would be realized! Frens, what was predicted in the Anti-Federalist Papers has not only been realized, but has occurred in spades!
I understand this information is well beyond the scope of being an issue at this point in our fight for liberty. We will be fortunate enough to have our nation separated from the grips of the current batch of tyrants in our midst! However, we must always strive for true liberty and keeping the truth of our real history somewhere in the recesses of our minds will ultimately serve to always keep us from letting our guard down and falling for the wolves in sheep's clothing whether it be a man or a document...
There are two aspects to this question.
What were the real reasons for creating the US constitution?
What was the end result ?
America was a product of the ideas created by the elites - both the good and bad faction. Even between themselves I doubt they really know who were the humanists and who were the anti-humanists.
The anti-humanists wanted America without monarchy since it took them centuries to subvert monarchy, and they believed that a republic would be far easier to control.
The humanists had seen the power wielded by the already subverted monarchy and were hopeful that allowing people to self-govern would actually be a great thing.
So both wanted this experiment, and hence the experiment was born.
I believe the anti-humanists allowed this Constitution as a necessary cover to hide their real intentions, but ensured there were enough loopholes.
The humanists, on the other hand, wanted to ensure the Constitution was as robust as they could make.
The end result of this experiment is:
In a way, the experiment went beyond both the humanists and anti-humanists goals and took life of its own.
I personally believe that constitution only affords protection only to a certain level. There is absolutely no such thing as "A perfect constitution that is fool-proof for the ages". No matter what they add to the constitution, with enough brainwashing and whitewashing, the Cabal could always find ways to subvert it.
America is a testament to the people who nurtured it for centuries, not the founders who created it.
The world is primitive, so the Constitution was a step up from the blatantly coercive governance that has been the default for most of world history. The Constitution failed to protect people from aristocratic taxation, so it’s quite primitive too. But it also has some good ideas, so we shouldn’t let the primitive coercionists scrap the whole thing.