So, if the fraud fooled our congress people, there is no recourse? Even if a foreign power infiltrated our ranks and cheated from the inside? No recourse. Hmm,
There's no mechanism in the Constitution for this. We don't have to like it, but wishing there was one doesn't write one in. Nor does a need manifest itself as an actuality.
But you are mistaken that fraud "fooled" congress. They knew damn good and well. Every single one of them was well aware. Many were in on it. The Constitution wasn't built to protect us from falling asleep and allowing an infiltration takeover by a corrupt cabal. It is precisely our own apathy that has allowed this to occur. This didn't occur overnight. It happened right under our own noses over decades.
We cannot realistically expect that the Constitution would contain provisions about how things should be handled in the event it had been violated. That is when the people sworn to uphold the Constitution defend it based on a higher law. ?
Typically when governments decay to the point where this type of corruption has taken over, that country's civil society is code blue. They either revolt, as we did from the British. Or they become subject to tyrannical rule, like we've seen in places like the Soviet Union, Mao's China, & Kim il Sung's Best Korea.
I have been actively seeking examples of military coups that turned out better than what they replaced. They are few and far between. Definitely the exception, and not the norm. Arguably, the Soviet "coup" in 1991 was an example. Even though the coup plotters were not in favor of the decentralization of the state. It failed. But that failure resulted in the failure of the USSR. Hard to argue that was a bad thing. Except that the military was going to preserve communism there; something that would have likely resulted in another Stalin-esque purge.
Egypt's coup of the muslim brotherhood might be a more modern example. I am not sure. I don't know enough about what has occurred there lately, and whether or not the generals are mostly running the place. But Egypt hasn't been in the news for being dysfunctional that I'm aware of.
All I know is that odds of seeing tanks and bradleys and apc's in our streets giving us relief from these people are not very good. And by the time they deploy, it will be too late to stop them. So if this ends up happening, its going to be a real shitty mess. Given that these same people we are hoping save us from this have also been watching this in real time for decades without acting, that doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy...
So, if the fraud fooled our congress people, there is no recourse? Even if a foreign power infiltrated our ranks and cheated from the inside? No recourse. Hmm,
There's no mechanism in the Constitution for this. We don't have to like it, but wishing there was one doesn't write one in. Nor does a need manifest itself as an actuality.
But you are mistaken that fraud "fooled" congress. They knew damn good and well. Every single one of them was well aware. Many were in on it. The Constitution wasn't built to protect us from falling asleep and allowing an infiltration takeover by a corrupt cabal. It is precisely our own apathy that has allowed this to occur. This didn't occur overnight. It happened right under our own noses over decades.
We cannot realistically expect that the Constitution would contain provisions about how things should be handled in the event it had been violated. That is when the people sworn to uphold the Constitution defend it based on a higher law. ?
Typically when governments decay to the point where this type of corruption has taken over, that country's civil society is code blue. They either revolt, as we did from the British. Or they become subject to tyrannical rule, like we've seen in places like the Soviet Union, Mao's China, & Kim il Sung's Best Korea.
I have been actively seeking examples of military coups that turned out better than what they replaced. They are few and far between. Definitely the exception, and not the norm. Arguably, the Soviet "coup" in 1991 was an example. Even though the coup plotters were not in favor of the decentralization of the state. It failed. But that failure resulted in the failure of the USSR. Hard to argue that was a bad thing. Except that the military was going to preserve communism there; something that would have likely resulted in another Stalin-esque purge.
Egypt's coup of the muslim brotherhood might be a more modern example. I am not sure. I don't know enough about what has occurred there lately, and whether or not the generals are mostly running the place. But Egypt hasn't been in the news for being dysfunctional that I'm aware of.
All I know is that odds of seeing tanks and bradleys and apc's in our streets giving us relief from these people are not very good. And by the time they deploy, it will be too late to stop them. So if this ends up happening, its going to be a real shitty mess. Given that these same people we are hoping save us from this have also been watching this in real time for decades without acting, that doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy...