AMERICANS KNEW: Americans & even the soldiers largely knew that World War II was fake - created by the communists to push the communist agenda. They were OPPOSED to being dragged in and bolshevik sleeper communist dick of satan FDR taunted and pulled Japan into it in order to protect USSR š„āš„
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So you're basing your conclusion on "destroyed" documents? Interesting. This is the same garbage that they push on Germany. It's easy to spin whatever narrative you want to when you can claim all the original documents were "destroyed." The fact that these alleged Japanese documents passed through so many governments' hands, as they certainly did after WWII, is very suspicious. It's just too easy to create a brainwashing narrative from that kind of stuff. Playing fast and loose with real history is too common in our movement nowadays.
MK Ultra is not the same as this incident we're talking about. There were people speaking out against MK Ultra when it happened. You're claiming all the evidence for "Unit 731" came from post-1984. Plus, MK Ultra is still largely denounced as a conspiracy theory, and those who speak truthfully about it are silenced. Whereas it appears that "Unit 731" has gained widespread mainstream acceptance and popularity.
And I think relying on the CIA and communist think-tanks is a hell of a lot lousier. Which is all you've showed me in this thread. I'd love to dig into the history more thoroughly if I had time for research (which I normally do), but I don't have time right now. So all I can say for now is that you should come up with some more convincing resources than sites that reference the CIA and commie thinktanks.
"Your opinion." Gotcha. I can't change your opinion buddy. Believe whatever you want to. Just don't state it as fact.
The testimony of soldiers is what I read about maybe 20 years ago, along with other details of this. The link is just something I quickly found to provide the context, and mentioned those soldiers and their testimony. Are they liars? Possibly. You apparently think they are, which is a pretty heavy accusation with out much research or knowledge into it. That would be a good place to start if youāre interested.
The destroyed documents and obfuscation is just par for the course. So you think that the cia would come out of the wood work and want to frame Japan as bad guys, in the 1980ās, for ww2 when they were already framed as bad guys? that doesnāt make any sense. To bury the truth by using people to write misleading articles with halve truths mixed with lies to obfuscate and hide the real truth. Yes, 100 percent that is how they operate.
it would seem, that they let war criminals, who committed acts of torture and crimes against humanity, off the hook just so they could have their research. They might have a vested interest in obfuscating that part of the story.
Did the bataan death march actually happen?
If so, what does that tell you about the Japanese and their view of imposing brutal punishment and death to their prisoners.
Does it prove unit 731, no. But it does show a contradiction to the noble character your trying to portray and as victims being framed.
Fast and loose with history? No, actually I enjoy studying history and have a very realistic view of the harsh brutality and violence that āgovernmentsā have inflicted upon their populations. You obviously believe the Disney version of history where there are noble rulers and governments who havenāt been conspiring and abusing their people but are romantically rescuing the oppressed. It may occur here and there, but it is by far the exception.
Your pretty naive if youāve fallen for the axis powers being good guys who were just framed. And based on what? Evidence thatās just now coming to light? Interesting.
I would say quite the contrary about mkultra and unit 731. Most people donāt even know much about ww2 let alone a secret program that the Japanese were conducting. Everyone I know knows about mkultra, not unit 731.
Testimony is the lynch pin. If you can convince me that those soldiers took the stand and gave false testimony then ok. if not, then Iāll give them the benefit of the doubt because of all the other circumstantial evidence that points in the same direction. Iām not that skilled to be able to verify the backgrounds or situations behind those soldier's who testified.
Alright, I set aside some time to do some digging and found some important data about the history of this event.
The following document comes from the US Govt. and it admits there is ZERO evidence for the types of Japanese war crimes you're talking about. The following is from page 10 of this document: https://www.archives.gov/files/iwg/japanese-war-crimes/select-documents.pdf#page=11
There you go. The US Govt. itself, as of 2007, has found ZERO evidence that this thing ever happened. They've admitted it in their official minutes.
I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post. You can do what you want to with this information. I've done enough homework for you.
You didnāt find shit!
once again it comes down to the pows testimony.
Are they liars?
Would the u.s government actually admit that they pardoned war criminals in order to obtain their research from those experiments? Witnesses claim it happened and the government told you no it didnāt so thatās where you stop. Thatās fucking hilarious!
Youāre pretty gullible.
āNSC provided a summary of the claims by POWs that they were the objects of BW experiments by the Japanese.ā
The claims and testimony from pows exists. They are real people with very detailed stories. You choose to not even look into them but just believe what the government says!?
Thatās pretty pathetic after all that!
You keep quoting the American witnesses, but interestingly the Japanese witnesses tell another story: https://www.sdh-fact.com/CL02_1/66_S4.pdf
That whole website has a lot of interesting data on it that paints a very different picture than the one being told by the History Channel and the CIA: https://www.sdh-fact.com
It seems that at the very least these claims are being way overblown. Any witness can claim anything. The question is whether there is reliable evidence and corroboration behind their claims. The devil tells the truth once in a blue moon. And so does the satanic US Government. It truly seems that there is no corroborative evidence beyond what these "witnesses" claim. Smells pretty fishy to me. Seems pretty gullible to believe the POW's who are being heralded as truth-bearers by the CIA and Simon Wiesenthal Center.
I don't think POWs' testimony should be taken at face value without examining the whole context of the situation, just like anyone else. POW's can be coerced or bribed to exaggerate or make up their story. Especially in the context of mock war trials and lies spun decades after the fact.
If you want to call me pathetic and not look into the "real people's" stories, try reading some of the Japanese soldiers' testimonies too. The conversation is pretty one-sided on your end. I think I'm done here.