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so one pilot says it's impossible per the 10,000 who say they could do it and you just want to believe the one...
it's just like that stupid thing you guys always parrot about the "over a thousand engineers said it's impossible" first off no they didn't thats a misleading stat and second of all i can find you three times that many "degree holders" who i wouldn't trust with a potato gun let alone trust to tell me whether or not a building can collapse like we all saw.
show me this "plane sticking out of the building then poof gone".
bet you can't.
look... i actually HAVE demoed buildings... i worked for a major company who does very large drops and no i will not say who or when (and you should know why).
i can tell you from personal experience that most buildings that big that are built that way... unless you engineer the drop perfectly... will fall straight down.
think about it, how much do you think these buildings weigh? (hint it's millions of tons). all that weight is constantly being pulled downward by gravity, it's trying to go straight down all the time 24/7 365. when you slam a plane into the middle of something at 600mph and damage the fuck out of it... then set whats left on fire... eventually the damaged area can't hold the weight of the floors above and the entire system blows apart.
you ever see a steel cable snap under tension? if you work around that OSHA nightmare for a living they constantly remind you "if that cable snaps it can cut you in half"... and they aren't joking.
that example (steel cable) a FRACTION of the forces at play in a massive skyscraper. a few thousand pounds will cut a car in half, imagine what a few million tons will do.
if you want to bend metal there's three ways to do it. force, heat, or some combination of the two. the more heat you give it, the less force you need, the more force you have, the less heat you need.
from the moment of impact the remaining metal supports in the damaged areas are now being asked to carry the load of the top of the building. aka there is now less shit to hold up shit. when you then heat those remaining metal supports in a fire for almost an hour, they lose structural integrity and each time a support element failed it placed more strain on the remaining supports.
the weight of the undamaged floors above doesn't change, that downward force/load never changes, but the ability to support that load is steadily decreasing the longer the fires burn and the more support elements fail and are removed from the system.
if allowed to continue, eventually the damaged area can no longer support the floors above and a cascade failure happens... this is a total failure and the damaged area essentially destroys itself under all of that weight.
you gotta remember you have each floor constructed with pretensioned steel cables embedded in the concrete floors to allow them to build the towers the way they did (at the time it was called a "radical" design for doing the open floor plan style instead of the traditional box girder style construction).
when those flors break from sagging, they explode. one of the most dangerous things to do in demolition is using the jackhammer on the end of a piece of machinery to chisel the concrete apart from the cables. you have to place metal wire nets over everything and big heavy tarps to catch the concrete when the cables are able to release... because they will very often take a bunch of concrete with them and huck a 300 pound chunk of jagged crete into your face at 100 mph
when that collapse starts and the floors start blowing themselves apart there is nothing that is going to stop the top half of the building from crashing down into the lower half of the building. you simply cannot expect the bottom half of the building to "catch" the top half
did you expect it to slowly and gently lower itself down onto the bottom portion of the tower like a fat man carefulling down into a questionable piece of furniture?
no, of course not... its fucking SLAMS into the shit because it's millions of tons of steel and concrete freefalling through the failed damaged area. once it starts moving the only thing stopping that much mass from falling downward is going to be the fucking planet.
i've been on a lot of demos, mostly bridges but i worked 4 buildings... 2 of them were very big. it took us MONTHS of prep work to rig them, and this is after the building was gutted down to the supporting structure and with a crew of 50 people. day after day of making weakening cuts into the metal, drilling holes into concrete to place charges, running miles and miles of det cord and blasting wire.
it's a massive operation to bring a building that big down.
so here's the question of the day...
if that building was rigged to blow, do you honestly think they would risk slamming planes into the towers and setting off all the explosives on impact? wouldn't that be a little odd as soon as the plane first hits you get this zipper flash of detcord racing through the building and the entire thing comes crashing down?
do you think they would risk that? don't you think that would be kinda obvious?
would they risk severing the miles and miles of thin insulated copper blasting wire needed to initiate all those charges by slamming planes into the buildings?
probably not huh?
and aside from all that... don't you think it would have been easier just to shoot the parking lot attendants and drive a bigger bomb into the buildings and try again?
would have been far easier, you can still just say terrorists did it couldn't you?
and how exactly do you silence the hundreds of people it would have taken to pull this off? did they kill them all or are they all just so dedicated to the fake terrorist attack that they keep their mouths shut?
whenever you scratch just below the surface on 9/10th of the "theories" surrounding 9/11 they fucking crumble under the slightest bit of scrutiny.
guess what doesn't though... that massive debris field for the 4th plane. the debris field so large that there is no possible way it wasn't blown out of the sky.
but you never hear anyone talk about that do you... hasn't that ever bothered you?
doesn't that seem even a little bit strange?
you're here arguing this easily provably false nonsense when the real shit is just chillin over here in the corner hoping you don't notice.
and you are all falling for it.
research COINTELPRO.