Source Ben Shapiro saying that. I'm not aware of that comment in specific, but if true it would certainly knock him down yet another rung on how I see him. He's a massive cuck in many ways, but has woken up many, many people. This is undeniable. Many became Trump supporters because of him, despite him disliking Trump. That alone is proof that you can be woken up by someone who isn't perfect and move past them without just becoming some brainwashed fool who only listens to the guy who woke you up (e.g. me. He solidified my conservative ideals in a way, and I eventually graduated from him onto better sources. I rarely watch him now as there are better sources to watch/listen to/read. But you have to start somewhere and he's it for many people, including myself).
Also, regarding Austin; I did a cursory search but just got a bunch of MSM garbage and as such didn't bring it up in my prior reply as I don't find that crap trustworthy. Figured I'd simply ask in the place that specializes in sharing and spreading truth and go from there with my argument while learning something new in the process. My bad, as I was arguing with a fucking dullard who only cares about being right and acting smarter and better than other people. What I did read made him sound like a fucking nutjob paytriot trying to get some fame off the Q community or make us look nuts. I didn't base this on how he looked, who he associated with, or the prison crap. I based it on what MSM claimed he said (operative word being claimed, which is why I didn't mention it here without further verification). I based it on his STATED MESSAGE. As always, if I'm wrong feel free to actually do something with your life and share some knowledge by posting his message so me and any other soul who has the misfortune of reading this who also hasn't heard it before can consider it.
Also, not one person has yet posted any message from Tom that is no good. You came closest to doing so by posting a picture of him with Ben Shapiro. Unfortunately, this alone means nothing. Working with a popular conservative does not mean he agrees with him on everything, nor does it mean his personal message is compromised. Not one person has yet posted a single message or anything from Tom himself that would indicate he's compromised. He could simply be using Ben to spread his message, which itself may or may not be good. If you think you know the reality of the situation two seconds after looking at a picture of them together, you aren't as smart as you think you are.
Your ideological purity bullshit has no place in a just society, and your anti-intellectual refusal to debate and instead just attack says everything on its own. It's clear you base your opinions on bigotry and not on logic or reason. None of this has any place on this board, either. Nor does your gaslighting bullshit where you take what people say out of context and respond to some made up opinion that they didn't proclaim (I sometimes wonder if certain people are just functionally unable to comprehend what-ifs/hypotheticals... Or maybe you're just intellectually dishonest... who knows...).
You know, I was going to move on, but instead I will unilaterally dismantle your claim that I would trust the devil, just so you have no recourse in claiming you didn't take my words out of context. I said:
If Satan renounced his evil ways and started preaching faith in Jesus Christ as Lord, that would be phenomenal. I probably still wouldn't trust it personally, at least at first if ever, but if I'm otherwise unable to lay out why the message is still bad, leading people astray, or pushing evil on the world then I have no ground to stand on in claiming that the messenger is bad or a trap. I can believe what I want, sure, but I have no ground to try and lead other's away.
To begin, the last thing Satan would ever do is profess Jesus Christ as Lord. No deception is worth doing this for him, let alone doing it consistently and without fail. He would rather burn in hell for all eternity with the rest of his demons than do this. If he DID do this, it's a big tell that something is going on. However, this alone does not prove him good (notice a pattern here? Tom isn't bad because of one "bad" thing, and Satan isn't good because of one "good" thing). Further, and as I said, I personally would still not trust him because, well, he's Satan! But it would erode away at my defenses if he consistently and continually preached a good message. If he continually told people not to follow him, but to follow Christ. To not worship he the devil, but to worship the Lord Jesus Christ. Not only is this something he would never do unless he meant it, in my opinion, but even if it was a lie, the end result is the same. He'd be preaching the Word of God and leading people away from himself and to the Lord God. "Ignore me and instead give the glory to God!". What possible purpose does this serve in his goal of leading people away from God and to death and destruction with him in Hell? This makes no fucking sense and if after years of him doing this you don't at least question if he changed you're a closed-minded idiot. Finally, my whole point was that I have no ground to stand on to argue against him. God gave his creations free will. To ignore this and base your view of someone on their past actions simply goes against scripture. So if for years the devil was preaching the Word of the Lord God Jesus Christ in its entirety, what ground do I have to stand to claim he's still bad? He may still be bad, and I may still not like him because he’s the fucking devil, but I have absolutely no logical basis to claim he is still bad or to convince anyone else of this belief who accepts his new message.
What I'll also say is there's a difference between the devil saying "I'm reformed and love God, now go and rape kids and cut off their dicks!" and him saying "I'm reformed, renounce me and trust in the lord Jesus Christ". One of these means nothing has changed, while the other is POTENTIALLY significant.
We know that won't happen, but that isn't the point. Again, it's a what-if scenario.
Also, Satan has done many bad things and pushed many damaging messages, as have his demons. And they still do right now (hence why I don't "welcome demons (actual demons as opposed to the hypothetical ones I made up to argue my point) into my efforts" as your bottom-of-the-barrel reading comprehension led you to conclude). What damaging messages has Tom pushed and/or is he pushing? I'll be honest, I don't expect an answer, as I'm nearly sure you don't have one. Nor does anyone else here attacking him for how he looks.
Furthermore, yes, you do need to debunk Tom if you want to accuse him of being a clown. And you certainly have to if you want anyone here to agree with you (but I take it you're more interested in fueling your superiority complex than actually spreading the truth, fighting evil, or doing an ounce of good for the world.) Taking one bigoted look at him is not enough, sorry.
And I want every single being in all of God's glorious creation to come together, renounce evil, and accept Jesus Christ as Lord. If you don't maybe you should look to yourself instead of judging others (and using religion as a bludgeon against those whose beliefs you dislike).
In closing, when you have a counter-argument other than "REEEE DEMON REEEE" gladly post it (it would do you good to stop sounding like a closed-minded peasant from the 1500s (and that's coming from someone who finds 1500s peasant life massively preferable to the modern world in a vast number of ways (not all, of course))). Until then, you can fuck right off back where you came from, as you add absolutely nothing to this board that I've seen and are living proof that not all people on our side are capable of critical thought and in some cases have just picked the opposite side vs the normies.
Fair enough, I'm just glad you're even considering reading it. And apologies for the length, I tend to get quite wordy (regardless of the topic).
And as a fair warning, the reply got a bit... spicy, I guess. I'd say it was solely in response to some of the comments in your reply, but I must admit I sort of elevated it a bit past that. Not that you necessarily care, though if you do, I once again apologize (was a bit salty at the "your idol" part, I admit), I suppose I mostly just wish I'd held my tongue a bit more in any case.
Source Ben Shapiro saying that. I'm not aware of that comment in specific, but if true it would certainly knock him down yet another rung on how I see him. He's a massive cuck in many ways, but has woken up many, many people. This is undeniable. Many became Trump supporters because of him, despite him disliking Trump. That alone is proof that you can be woken up by someone who isn't perfect and move past them without just becoming some brainwashed fool who only listens to the guy who woke you up (e.g. me. He solidified my conservative ideals in a way, and I eventually graduated from him onto better sources. I rarely watch him now as there are better sources to watch/listen to/read. But you have to start somewhere and he's it for many people, including myself).
Also, regarding Austin; I did a cursory search but just got a bunch of MSM garbage and as such didn't bring it up in my prior reply as I don't find that crap trustworthy. Figured I'd simply ask in the place that specializes in sharing and spreading truth and go from there with my argument while learning something new in the process. My bad, as I was arguing with a fucking dullard who only cares about being right and acting smarter and better than other people. What I did read made him sound like a fucking nutjob paytriot trying to get some fame off the Q community or make us look nuts. I didn't base this on how he looked, who he associated with, or the prison crap. I based it on what MSM claimed he said (operative word being claimed, which is why I didn't mention it here without further verification). I based it on his STATED MESSAGE. As always, if I'm wrong feel free to actually do something with your life and share some knowledge by posting his message so me and any other soul who has the misfortune of reading this who also hasn't heard it before can consider it.
Also, not one person has yet posted any message from Tom that is no good. You came closest to doing so by posting a picture of him with Ben Shapiro. Unfortunately, this alone means nothing. Working with a popular conservative does not mean he agrees with him on everything, nor does it mean his personal message is compromised. Not one person has yet posted a single message or anything from Tom himself that would indicate he's compromised. He could simply be using Ben to spread his message, which itself may or may not be good. If you think you know the reality of the situation two seconds after looking at a picture of them together, you aren't as smart as you think you are.
Your ideological purity bullshit has no place in a just society, and your anti-intellectual refusal to debate and instead just attack says everything on its own. It's clear you base your opinions on bigotry and not on logic or reason. None of this has any place on this board, either. Nor does your gaslighting bullshit where you take what people say out of context and respond to some made up opinion that they didn't proclaim (I sometimes wonder if certain people are just functionally unable to comprehend what-ifs/hypotheticals... Or maybe you're just intellectually dishonest... who knows...).
You know, I was going to move on, but instead I will unilaterally dismantle your claim that I would trust the devil, just so you have no recourse in claiming you didn't take my words out of context. I said:
To begin, the last thing Satan would ever do is profess Jesus Christ as Lord. No deception is worth doing this for him, let alone doing it consistently and without fail. He would rather burn in hell for all eternity with the rest of his demons than do this. If he DID do this, it's a big tell that something is going on. However, this alone does not prove him good (notice a pattern here? Tom isn't bad because of one "bad" thing, and Satan isn't good because of one "good" thing). Further, and as I said, I personally would still not trust him because, well, he's Satan! But it would erode away at my defenses if he consistently and continually preached a good message. If he continually told people not to follow him, but to follow Christ. To not worship he the devil, but to worship the Lord Jesus Christ. Not only is this something he would never do unless he meant it, in my opinion, but even if it was a lie, the end result is the same. He'd be preaching the Word of God and leading people away from himself and to the Lord God. "Ignore me and instead give the glory to God!". What possible purpose does this serve in his goal of leading people away from God and to death and destruction with him in Hell? This makes no fucking sense and if after years of him doing this you don't at least question if he changed you're a closed-minded idiot. Finally, my whole point was that I have no ground to stand on to argue against him. God gave his creations free will. To ignore this and base your view of someone on their past actions simply goes against scripture. So if for years the devil was preaching the Word of the Lord God Jesus Christ in its entirety, what ground do I have to stand to claim he's still bad? He may still be bad, and I may still not like him because he’s the fucking devil, but I have absolutely no logical basis to claim he is still bad or to convince anyone else of this belief who accepts his new message.
What I'll also say is there's a difference between the devil saying "I'm reformed and love God, now go and rape kids and cut off their dicks!" and him saying "I'm reformed, renounce me and trust in the lord Jesus Christ". One of these means nothing has changed, while the other is POTENTIALLY significant.
We know that won't happen, but that isn't the point. Again, it's a what-if scenario.
Also, Satan has done many bad things and pushed many damaging messages, as have his demons. And they still do right now (hence why I don't "welcome demons (actual demons as opposed to the hypothetical ones I made up to argue my point) into my efforts" as your bottom-of-the-barrel reading comprehension led you to conclude). What damaging messages has Tom pushed and/or is he pushing? I'll be honest, I don't expect an answer, as I'm nearly sure you don't have one. Nor does anyone else here attacking him for how he looks.
Furthermore, yes, you do need to debunk Tom if you want to accuse him of being a clown. And you certainly have to if you want anyone here to agree with you (but I take it you're more interested in fueling your superiority complex than actually spreading the truth, fighting evil, or doing an ounce of good for the world.) Taking one bigoted look at him is not enough, sorry.
And I want every single being in all of God's glorious creation to come together, renounce evil, and accept Jesus Christ as Lord. If you don't maybe you should look to yourself instead of judging others (and using religion as a bludgeon against those whose beliefs you dislike).
In closing, when you have a counter-argument other than "REEEE DEMON REEEE" gladly post it (it would do you good to stop sounding like a closed-minded peasant from the 1500s (and that's coming from someone who finds 1500s peasant life massively preferable to the modern world in a vast number of ways (not all, of course))). Until then, you can fuck right off back where you came from, as you add absolutely nothing to this board that I've seen and are living proof that not all people on our side are capable of critical thought and in some cases have just picked the opposite side vs the normies.
fuck that's a lot to read. gimme some time. ill respond when I can.
Fair enough, I'm just glad you're even considering reading it. And apologies for the length, I tend to get quite wordy (regardless of the topic).
And as a fair warning, the reply got a bit... spicy, I guess. I'd say it was solely in response to some of the comments in your reply, but I must admit I sort of elevated it a bit past that. Not that you necessarily care, though if you do, I once again apologize (was a bit salty at the "your idol" part, I admit), I suppose I mostly just wish I'd held my tongue a bit more in any case.