Fren, I'm just going to paste what I have on my hard drive, sorry, I'm too tired right now to proofread & correct it. I posted this before on here but can't find it. It's going to take 2 comments:
Revelations 12-20 Is Trump the rider of the horse, The 2nd beast/false prophet the media & the 1st beast the Sabateans???
I am not that much of a Bible fanatic but I’ve read Revelations when young and recently 2 different Jewish friends ( both Trump supporters ) told me on separate occasions about this group that started out as a Jewish sect called the sabateans. They both complain that these Sabateans “ARE NOT JEWISH” they explained, because they not only don’t follow Jewish law –THEY PERVERT IT!
Sabatai Zevi (Sevi Tzvi,…) was a rabbi in the 1600’s & devised this new sort of theology where one can have atonement from sin (Mitzvah) by intentionally doing yet another sin. (Yes, it’s perverted) Somehow he had a way of supposedly cleansing one from sin by doing a much harsher stronger sin in a very deliberate way, or something like that. Early followers of Zevi & Frank (below) were seen doing "wife swaping" back in those days but who knows what else they did.
Zevi was miraculously saved from some minor incident once & some people considered him the messiah. There was also some sort of prophet / false prophet back then (Abraham Yachini ) who also claimed that Zevi was the messiah It is said that he had a following of about a million back in those days.
At some point he encountered the Sultan of Turkey. I cut & pasted this from somewhere online:
Sabbatai Tzvi placed under house arrest by the Sultan. Locked in chains and is threatened with poison arrows to prove his divinity. Is given choice between Islamic conversion or death. Sabbatai chooses Islam and life. He doesn’t cease being a Jew but becomes Muslim also. Sabbatai is above the categorization of Jew or Muslim. Much to the shock and chagrin of the Jewish world Sabbatai appeases the Sultan. He then begins to lay the groundwork restructuring of the world based on universalism and world brotherhood ruled by an elite of his devoted followers dedicated to eradicating the world’s ills and promoting progress of civilization.
He is said to have converted to Islam in 1666. At that point he lost most of his followers but 300 families also converted & became the Dohmeh in Turkey. Interestingly enough a grandchild of one of those 1st Dohmeh started Wahhabism (that horrible sect of Islam that believes in beheading non Muslims, ISIS & el-Qatar are wahhabists ) Wahhab made a pact with Muhammad bin Saud founder of Saudi Arabia (This could be all 1 head of the beast down below) It is also thought that the Sabbateans started Freemasonry about 50 years later (which could be another head)
Jacob Frank 50 or 100 years later claims to be Zevi’s reincarnation & converts to Christianity, equally as dubiously. His followers though didn't really mix with the non sabbatean Christians (nor did Zevi’s sabbatean Muslims ) they always marry into their own UNLESS they marry someone of a higher social status like prince or etc. So by now they have married into all the nobility or élites of any type (The European nobility could all be another head, perhaps some sort of entertainment and newspaper heads other types yet other heads & I am assuming some stayed as “Jews” like the Rothschilds & other bankers – yet another ‘head’ )
They like to believe that their evil Sevi is the messiah so they do not like those who think differently such as real Jews & Christians It is thought they were the ones behind Hitler (To help eradicate real jews since they don’t believe in Sevi – they also gain some benefit from all that fear, terror, death & spilling of blood)
I am suggesting that the cabal, the basic network that holds together the swamp are the followers of Zevi, the sabateans and that this network is the 7 headed beast mentioned in Revelations. (Or one of them) There are three 7 headed beasts mentioned In these 8 chapters of Revelations. They could be the same one of three different ones, The 1st one (Chapter 12) is a red dragon chasing the woman. The 2nd one (chapter 13) is like a Leopold & we don’t know the color & the 3rd a scarlet beast with a harlot on top. This last one could be either of the other two, (or they all could the same - or all different) But this last one must span millennia since already in St John’s time 5 of the heads are past.
We don’t know the timing of the 1st one, we just know the woman is in a safe place for 1260 days. We see a woman giving birth to a male child & the dragon wants to eat the child. (Rev 12:4) The Bible is of course on many levels simultaneously. On one level we see the foretelling of a practice never heard of back then. It is believed that some Sabbatean women get pregnant & deliver a child FOR THE PURPOSE of sacrificing & yes, I hate to say, eating that newborn to empower their perverted rituals. As weird as this all is, we know from Q that this is roughly correct.
Let me explain. The blood of an animal is very powerful. It represents the life energy of the animal. I know someone from an African tribe & he told me that if someone in their tribe is sick. They take a goat, slit it’s throat, put the blood in a cup & have the sick person drink that blood immediately, while the blood is still warm. It gives them strength. You can’t put the blood in the fridge & have it later though. It’s not so much the physical / biological properties of the blood; it is more the metaphysical properties. That fresh blood has the life of the animal in it This somehow adds to the life energy of the ailing soul to help them recover.
I have heard of others that use that blood of an animal to empower a ritual. It also could be the case that there are metaphysical entities that like that blood as well. Yes dark entities but also light… The ancient Hebrews were told not to drink the blood of animals not because it is bad, but because it is too good. It is sacred & only for God. The point I am trying to make is that animal blood carries with it life energy which is so powerful it can be used magically. The reason I say that is that, if an animal’s blood is so powerful then how much more powerful would the blood of a human be? This is why they want these breeder Sabbatean women to pump out babies for their rituals.. Let me tell you all though, there is something EVEN MORE POWERFUL than the blood of a human being and that is the blood of God made flesh in the body of Jesus Christ. He spilt his blood for us. This is why the blood of Jesus is SO powerful & yes he will conquer all these evil doers. BUT they know that. This is why they are attacking Christianity nonstop. They know that the blood of Christ is the only thing that can stop them. I bet it was no accident that they got so many churches to stop giving communion because of the lockdown. They probably are feeling a surge in their power. Nevertheless, on another level in this same story: This is why the dragon is chasing the woman. IF the woman represents the church, the devil (dragon) & his people (the sabbateans) will want the church to stop transmuting wine into the blood of Christ. We see this going on now. Not just with the lockdown but for the last several years there has been a constant whittling away at the church & Christianity. They have moved society such that it laughs at Christianity. Satanists have infiltrated the priesthood to do indecent acts, partly for the purpose of power & partly for the purpose of bringing down the church. This is because they know that Christianity is the only force that can stop them.
In Chapter 12 The woman has a prepared place in the wilderness for 1260 days (Rev 12:6). This could be one particular woman being chased by Sabateans, it could also be the whole entire Christian church. (I tend to think that these images are true on 3 levels.) Let’s consider the case of the woman representing the WHOLE church: If the woman represents the whole church then what does a day represent in the 1260 days? If you could only use numbers, which number would you use to represent “all”, “the total sum” of, as in the WHOLE church? If the woman represents THE WHOLE CHURCH, all of the church or 100% of the church then a day probably means a 100 days, no? Later on 42 months: ( Rev 11:2, Rev 13:5) must be 4200 months & Rev 12:14 where it says a time, 2 times & ½ a time, a time must be a century, not a year. Of course, 116000 days is roughly 4200 months is roughly 350 years.
Beasts in the Bible usually represent some sort of empire. All the other empires had just one head - which is typical for what we have seen in the past, Greece, Rome etc but this new beast is different that way. I am guessing that this empire is the cabal, the swamp. It transcends country lines. In fact country has little effect, except of maybe a few nation states. So let's consider the possibility that this empire is the swamp, or the network that hides within: Notice that, it has taken over almost all the nations of the world, not in the typical way that empires take over countries but it has taken them over, nevertheless. Isn't that what defines an empire???? Like how Sabatai Zevi gave the false outside appearance that he became Muslim & Jacob Frank gave the false outside appearance he became Christian, the swamp lets the nations have an outside appearance of a sovereign nation but it is really another 'head' of this swamp monster. This is my 2 cents.
Now let's say it started in 1666 when Zevi 1st converted to Islam. Yes he was around before that but for a supposed messiah of one religion to give the outward appearance of converting to another faith yet while still doing his hidden dark magic stuff, sort of seals it as complete blasphemy, no? How much worse can it be? A messiah would lay down his life for his cause not play like a chameleon. That really seems to be a defining moment, imho.
So if it lasts 350 years then 1666+350-2016 The year Donald Trump became president. I don't want to deify Trump or any man & he would have nothing of it either but it could very well be that God is using him to slay this beast. Interesting also is that his 1st full day on the job (1/21/2017) was his 70th year 7th month & 7th day. Wicked Interesting. It just sorta adds one more piece of validation to my idea here
Now look at Revelations 19:11-21 The rider of that house has a sharp sword that comes out of his mouth DOESN’T THAT SOUND LIKE TRUMP???!!! It looks like he IS the one destined to slay the beast, no? That’s quite something to have ½ a bible chapter dedicated to you! That’s even better than Mt Rushmore, imho IDK what “His name is called the word of God” would mean. He is not the word of God of course, that would be Christ but it is his name that is called the word of God. IDK, maybe it’s just that he’s a Christian. Donald means “ruler of the world” & the word “Trump” comes from the word triumph.
I am tired of waiting just like the rest of you guys but look at Saint John, he has waited 2000 years so far. I think we can hold on for another month or two.
This is of course all guesses & There’s of course a lot that. I’m just going to hit a few more things that jump out at me & down below in the comments PLEASE DO THE SAME - even if you think it’s stupid. If something just hits you as maybe related point it out. Of course it could be wrong – but it could be right too. Let us all
Furthermore, my guess is that the 2nd beast in chapter 13 is the media. (The one with just 2 horns) Rev 13:15 “And he had power to give life to the image of the beast” That’s what media does, it gives life to images. TV, meme’s & media All we see are images of people & institutions that may not even be alive; Again Rev 14:9,11; 15:2, 16:2 all talk about worshiping
Fren, I'm just going to paste what I have on my hard drive, sorry, I'm too tired right now to proofread & correct it. I posted this before on here but can't find it. It's going to take 2 comments:
Revelations 12-20 Is Trump the rider of the horse, The 2nd beast/false prophet the media & the 1st beast the Sabateans???
I am not that much of a Bible fanatic but I’ve read Revelations when young and recently 2 different Jewish friends ( both Trump supporters ) told me on separate occasions about this group that started out as a Jewish sect called the sabateans. They both complain that these Sabateans “ARE NOT JEWISH” they explained, because they not only don’t follow Jewish law –THEY PERVERT IT!
Sabatai Zevi (Sevi Tzvi,…) was a rabbi in the 1600’s & devised this new sort of theology where one can have atonement from sin (Mitzvah) by intentionally doing yet another sin. (Yes, it’s perverted) Somehow he had a way of supposedly cleansing one from sin by doing a much harsher stronger sin in a very deliberate way, or something like that. Early followers of Zevi & Frank (below) were seen doing "wife swaping" back in those days but who knows what else they did.
Zevi was miraculously saved from some minor incident once & some people considered him the messiah. There was also some sort of prophet / false prophet back then (Abraham Yachini ) who also claimed that Zevi was the messiah It is said that he had a following of about a million back in those days.
At some point he encountered the Sultan of Turkey. I cut & pasted this from somewhere online:
Sabbatai Tzvi placed under house arrest by the Sultan. Locked in chains and is threatened with poison arrows to prove his divinity. Is given choice between Islamic conversion or death. Sabbatai chooses Islam and life. He doesn’t cease being a Jew but becomes Muslim also. Sabbatai is above the categorization of Jew or Muslim. Much to the shock and chagrin of the Jewish world Sabbatai appeases the Sultan. He then begins to lay the groundwork restructuring of the world based on universalism and world brotherhood ruled by an elite of his devoted followers dedicated to eradicating the world’s ills and promoting progress of civilization.
He is said to have converted to Islam in 1666. At that point he lost most of his followers but 300 families also converted & became the Dohmeh in Turkey. Interestingly enough a grandchild of one of those 1st Dohmeh started Wahhabism (that horrible sect of Islam that believes in beheading non Muslims, ISIS & el-Qatar are wahhabists ) Wahhab made a pact with Muhammad bin Saud founder of Saudi Arabia (This could be all 1 head of the beast down below) It is also thought that the Sabbateans started Freemasonry about 50 years later (which could be another head)
Jacob Frank 50 or 100 years later claims to be Zevi’s reincarnation & converts to Christianity, equally as dubiously. His followers though didn't really mix with the non sabbatean Christians (nor did Zevi’s sabbatean Muslims ) they always marry into their own UNLESS they marry someone of a higher social status like prince or etc. So by now they have married into all the nobility or élites of any type (The European nobility could all be another head, perhaps some sort of entertainment and newspaper heads other types yet other heads & I am assuming some stayed as “Jews” like the Rothschilds & other bankers – yet another ‘head’ )
They like to believe that their evil Sevi is the messiah so they do not like those who think differently such as real Jews & Christians It is thought they were the ones behind Hitler (To help eradicate real jews since they don’t believe in Sevi – they also gain some benefit from all that fear, terror, death & spilling of blood)
I am suggesting that the cabal, the basic network that holds together the swamp are the followers of Zevi, the sabateans and that this network is the 7 headed beast mentioned in Revelations. (Or one of them) There are three 7 headed beasts mentioned In these 8 chapters of Revelations. They could be the same one of three different ones, The 1st one (Chapter 12) is a red dragon chasing the woman. The 2nd one (chapter 13) is like a Leopold & we don’t know the color & the 3rd a scarlet beast with a harlot on top. This last one could be either of the other two, (or they all could the same - or all different) But this last one must span millennia since already in St John’s time 5 of the heads are past.
We don’t know the timing of the 1st one, we just know the woman is in a safe place for 1260 days. We see a woman giving birth to a male child & the dragon wants to eat the child. (Rev 12:4) The Bible is of course on many levels simultaneously. On one level we see the foretelling of a practice never heard of back then. It is believed that some Sabbatean women get pregnant & deliver a child FOR THE PURPOSE of sacrificing & yes, I hate to say, eating that newborn to empower their perverted rituals. As weird as this all is, we know from Q that this is roughly correct.
Let me explain. The blood of an animal is very powerful. It represents the life energy of the animal. I know someone from an African tribe & he told me that if someone in their tribe is sick. They take a goat, slit it’s throat, put the blood in a cup & have the sick person drink that blood immediately, while the blood is still warm. It gives them strength. You can’t put the blood in the fridge & have it later though. It’s not so much the physical / biological properties of the blood; it is more the metaphysical properties. That fresh blood has the life of the animal in it This somehow adds to the life energy of the ailing soul to help them recover.
I have heard of others that use that blood of an animal to empower a ritual. It also could be the case that there are metaphysical entities that like that blood as well. Yes dark entities but also light… The ancient Hebrews were told not to drink the blood of animals not because it is bad, but because it is too good. It is sacred & only for God. The point I am trying to make is that animal blood carries with it life energy which is so powerful it can be used magically. The reason I say that is that, if an animal’s blood is so powerful then how much more powerful would the blood of a human be? This is why they want these breeder Sabbatean women to pump out babies for their rituals.. Let me tell you all though, there is something EVEN MORE POWERFUL than the blood of a human being and that is the blood of God made flesh in the body of Jesus Christ. He spilt his blood for us. This is why the blood of Jesus is SO powerful & yes he will conquer all these evil doers. BUT they know that. This is why they are attacking Christianity nonstop. They know that the blood of Christ is the only thing that can stop them. I bet it was no accident that they got so many churches to stop giving communion because of the lockdown. They probably are feeling a surge in their power. Nevertheless, on another level in this same story: This is why the dragon is chasing the woman. IF the woman represents the church, the devil (dragon) & his people (the sabbateans) will want the church to stop transmuting wine into the blood of Christ. We see this going on now. Not just with the lockdown but for the last several years there has been a constant whittling away at the church & Christianity. They have moved society such that it laughs at Christianity. Satanists have infiltrated the priesthood to do indecent acts, partly for the purpose of power & partly for the purpose of bringing down the church. This is because they know that Christianity is the only force that can stop them.
In Chapter 12 The woman has a prepared place in the wilderness for 1260 days (Rev 12:6). This could be one particular woman being chased by Sabateans, it could also be the whole entire Christian church. (I tend to think that these images are true on 3 levels.) Let’s consider the case of the woman representing the WHOLE church: If the woman represents the whole church then what does a day represent in the 1260 days? If you could only use numbers, which number would you use to represent “all”, “the total sum” of, as in the WHOLE church? If the woman represents THE WHOLE CHURCH, all of the church or 100% of the church then a day probably means a 100 days, no? Later on 42 months: ( Rev 11:2, Rev 13:5) must be 4200 months & Rev 12:14 where it says a time, 2 times & ½ a time, a time must be a century, not a year. Of course, 116000 days is roughly 4200 months is roughly 350 years.
Beasts in the Bible usually represent some sort of empire. All the other empires had just one head - which is typical for what we have seen in the past, Greece, Rome etc but this new beast is different that way. I am guessing that this empire is the cabal, the swamp. It transcends country lines. In fact country has little effect, except of maybe a few nation states. So let's consider the possibility that this empire is the swamp, or the network that hides within: Notice that, it has taken over almost all the nations of the world, not in the typical way that empires take over countries but it has taken them over, nevertheless. Isn't that what defines an empire???? Like how Sabatai Zevi gave the false outside appearance that he became Muslim & Jacob Frank gave the false outside appearance he became Christian, the swamp lets the nations have an outside appearance of a sovereign nation but it is really another 'head' of this swamp monster. This is my 2 cents.
Now let's say it started in 1666 when Zevi 1st converted to Islam. Yes he was around before that but for a supposed messiah of one religion to give the outward appearance of converting to another faith yet while still doing his hidden dark magic stuff, sort of seals it as complete blasphemy, no? How much worse can it be? A messiah would lay down his life for his cause not play like a chameleon. That really seems to be a defining moment, imho.
So if it lasts 350 years then 1666+350-2016 The year Donald Trump became president. I don't want to deify Trump or any man & he would have nothing of it either but it could very well be that God is using him to slay this beast. Interesting also is that his 1st full day on the job (1/21/2017) was his 70th year 7th month & 7th day. Wicked Interesting. It just sorta adds one more piece of validation to my idea here
Now look at Revelations 19:11-21 The rider of that house has a sharp sword that comes out of his mouth DOESN’T THAT SOUND LIKE TRUMP???!!! It looks like he IS the one destined to slay the beast, no? That’s quite something to have ½ a bible chapter dedicated to you! That’s even better than Mt Rushmore, imho IDK what “His name is called the word of God” would mean. He is not the word of God of course, that would be Christ but it is his name that is called the word of God. IDK, maybe it’s just that he’s a Christian. Donald means “ruler of the world” & the word “Trump” comes from the word triumph.
I am tired of waiting just like the rest of you guys but look at Saint John, he has waited 2000 years so far. I think we can hold on for another month or two. This is of course all guesses & There’s of course a lot that. I’m just going to hit a few more things that jump out at me & down below in the comments PLEASE DO THE SAME - even if you think it’s stupid. If something just hits you as maybe related point it out. Of course it could be wrong – but it could be right too. Let us all
Furthermore, my guess is that the 2nd beast in chapter 13 is the media. (The one with just 2 horns) Rev 13:15 “And he had power to give life to the image of the beast” That’s what media does, it gives life to images. TV, meme’s & media All we see are images of people & institutions that may not even be alive; Again Rev 14:9,11; 15:2, 16:2 all talk about worshiping