If the military doesn't do anything now, all we have left is... Well.. the end game
So at what point do you consider that "the military" will not "do anything"? You do realize that "the military" is in no way whatsoever a single entity right? There are multiple branches, each with its own chain of command. In order for "the military" to step in and "do something" would require the top level brass from each one to all agree to act in concert together and send the order. And if those orders seemed...revolutionary...to people further down the chain, it could lead to said orders being questioned. That is normally never done but unless each and every recipient of said orders 100% agrees with them, it will cause issues due to the nature of the orders. Troops are not going to mindlessly go out into the streets and start arresting and/or shooting people just because they are told to. This whole "the military" thing has been way way overblown IMO.
And what is your definition of "the end game"? If "the military" does not "do something" then what else is there to do by regular citizens? Specifically. Because acting butthurt online counts for exactly dick.
When Lake loses, and I don't see ANY repercussions in the following week I'll take that as a sign the military, in ANY FUCKING FORM, {nobody implied military on the streets to begin with} is doing absolutely zero. Because if they were going to do anything, they'd sure as hell want to do it before the outrage hits the streets and violence occurs. {Think deputies on roof in Maricopa... They are not there for your health}
I'm not going to say what the end game is, but we all know. One side wants it, and the other is trying to avoid it.
Question I have for you is, how long do you wait until it becomes crystal clear that they got away with it?
When your family is in a bread line or jailed for wrong speak?
Well pretty much any mention of the military "taking action" on this site references mass arrests, tribunals, and public hangings. So yeah "on the streets" is kind of a no brainer at that point.
And since you answered (some) of my questions:
how long do you wait until it becomes crystal clear that they got away with it?
Honestly I don't know. I try not to assume that every single loss for an R candidate means definite cheating. Because to be fair, it is not reasonable to suspect that 100% of them should have won hands down. That is simply not logical given the number of voters in the country. We haven't even finished the initial count yet, much less any recounts and/or run offs. So to out of hand reject everything at this stage is to me, foolish.
But what I will say is that all I have seen is a lot of butthurt whiny online posting going on. No real world protests or sit downs or anything. If people truly believed there was thievery in the ballot counting rooms, it seems to me that they should be out there making some noise in the real world instead of posting online about how "the military" needs to step in and kick ass. If people hold their breath waiting for MPs to start making arrests, they are going to pass out.
Posting complaints here is the same as going to the movies and arguing that the cost of popcorn is too high. Everyone there will agree but nothing will be done about it.
Well I take issue with your comment about whining and complaining.
I did none of that. It was a opinion regarding "if this doesn't happen, this surely will". You don't agree with it so it's you who is harping on it.
So you can stop with that nonsense. But it appears to me you keep misinterpreting MY feeling about military intervention. I do not expect military on the street yanking people into armored cars. Though that WILL happen if street violence breaks out, and it won't be good for us.
I do however expect things to happen on the tech side, such as verifiable proof of election fraud.
To go with your asinine "popcorn" observation even further, you don't know if I have arranged protests, served papers to the teachers union or plastered posters about certain people in local government. I am, however, certain I've done far more than you have.
So at what point do you consider that "the military" will not "do anything"? You do realize that "the military" is in no way whatsoever a single entity right? There are multiple branches, each with its own chain of command. In order for "the military" to step in and "do something" would require the top level brass from each one to all agree to act in concert together and send the order. And if those orders seemed...revolutionary...to people further down the chain, it could lead to said orders being questioned. That is normally never done but unless each and every recipient of said orders 100% agrees with them, it will cause issues due to the nature of the orders. Troops are not going to mindlessly go out into the streets and start arresting and/or shooting people just because they are told to. This whole "the military" thing has been way way overblown IMO.
And what is your definition of "the end game"? If "the military" does not "do something" then what else is there to do by regular citizens? Specifically. Because acting butthurt online counts for exactly dick.
Okay I'll answer your questions.
When Lake loses, and I don't see ANY repercussions in the following week I'll take that as a sign the military, in ANY FUCKING FORM, {nobody implied military on the streets to begin with} is doing absolutely zero. Because if they were going to do anything, they'd sure as hell want to do it before the outrage hits the streets and violence occurs. {Think deputies on roof in Maricopa... They are not there for your health}
I'm not going to say what the end game is, but we all know. One side wants it, and the other is trying to avoid it.
Question I have for you is, how long do you wait until it becomes crystal clear that they got away with it?
When your family is in a bread line or jailed for wrong speak?
Well pretty much any mention of the military "taking action" on this site references mass arrests, tribunals, and public hangings. So yeah "on the streets" is kind of a no brainer at that point.
And since you answered (some) of my questions:
Honestly I don't know. I try not to assume that every single loss for an R candidate means definite cheating. Because to be fair, it is not reasonable to suspect that 100% of them should have won hands down. That is simply not logical given the number of voters in the country. We haven't even finished the initial count yet, much less any recounts and/or run offs. So to out of hand reject everything at this stage is to me, foolish.
But what I will say is that all I have seen is a lot of butthurt whiny online posting going on. No real world protests or sit downs or anything. If people truly believed there was thievery in the ballot counting rooms, it seems to me that they should be out there making some noise in the real world instead of posting online about how "the military" needs to step in and kick ass. If people hold their breath waiting for MPs to start making arrests, they are going to pass out.
Posting complaints here is the same as going to the movies and arguing that the cost of popcorn is too high. Everyone there will agree but nothing will be done about it.
Well I take issue with your comment about whining and complaining.
I did none of that. It was a opinion regarding "if this doesn't happen, this surely will". You don't agree with it so it's you who is harping on it.
So you can stop with that nonsense. But it appears to me you keep misinterpreting MY feeling about military intervention. I do not expect military on the street yanking people into armored cars. Though that WILL happen if street violence breaks out, and it won't be good for us.
I do however expect things to happen on the tech side, such as verifiable proof of election fraud.
To go with your asinine "popcorn" observation even further, you don't know if I have arranged protests, served papers to the teachers union or plastered posters about certain people in local government. I am, however, certain I've done far more than you have.
So anyway, kindly fuck off.
Good day