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It is all about perspective cause I am sure you can sit there and say it's been about control and have some sort of case and I can sit here and tell you that, at times, we have had bad leaders doing bad things, like all organizations.
We have been around since the death of Jesus and will continue being around until the end of time. The doctrine that Jesus established isn't about control, but about saving souls. With that being said, I am not looking to debate, my whole point is, that we are all fighting for the same exact thing. I understand that the leadership is masonic, I understand that they probably serve satan but we do not, the doctrine does not serve satan. There is a reason why the media mocks us the most, the satanic doctrine is literally the opposite of the Catholic doctrine.
We do not deserve to be belittled the way we are on this site.
Edit: as a quick edit, all organizations have done horrible things, look at what both sides did in the 30 years war. That comes down to people, not the doctrine.
The Roman’s never took control of the Church, the Church was actually established as the main religion under emperor Constantine, after the battle of Milvan Bridge, and the only reason why that happened was because reportedly, he received a sign from Heaven (Jesus’s initials in Greek) stating that “in this sign you will conquer”.
He then had dream that very night from an angel stating that if he used those signs on their banners and shields he will win the upcoming battle that looked near impossible to win. He followed what he experienced and won a tremendous victory, thus making the empire Christian/Catholic. He actually starting following the teaches of the Church, he did not start changing rules that were already established. It’s not as simple as “the Roman’s took it over”, take a look for yourself and you will see the objective facts.
Being a fairly recent convert to Catholicism, I would respectfully disagree with you, from everything I researched all Catholic teachings are rooted from the Bible, which is why I converted in the first place. I rebelled from the Church when I was younger and came crawling back 10-15 years later after learning everything I did. I am very strong in my faith and will never leave it.
This proves nothing friend, even the Hail Mary aspect, the entire thing is centered around Jesus and asking the holy mother to pray on our behalf. Even the entire prayer comes from the Bible, different snippets of it but it is still biblical.
I did read this document, and we got all the answers here for it, but would it matter to you if I answered them for you? If I took the time to find out sources would you give a shit? You sending me this means nothing, I could even refute the bit about priests not needing to be mediators. Everything we do is biblically supported. The question is, do you even care that we have the answers to everything in this pdf?
This is not a check mate brother, as a matter a fact this plays exactly into my original comment, I don’t care whether you like us or not, but you don’t need to disrespect us, especially by trying to let a one sided document do all the work for you.
Just to give you an idea of how wrong your document is, this is why Joan of Arc was burned
https://www.history.com/.amp/news/joan-arc-burned-stake
She refused to take back what she was saying about being in direct communication with God, then The church basically gave her back to the English (secular court), and the English decided to burn her. The current pope at that time did not order her to be burned lol there is so much misinformation in there it is pretty crazy. I only gave you an objective source to show that history remembers it much differently than you do my friend. I can keep going but seriously what is the point? Would it make a difference to you?