An engine fire would need a constant supply of fuel to reach the temperature needed to damage nearby vehicles so extensively. There isn't enough combustible material inside an engine compartment to create such damage. An external fuel source must have been added.
This is very suspicious on its own... but when you also consider the fact that the president and his security team DO NOT travel in unarmoured civilian rental vehicles, it certainly raises eyebrows.
you forget just how much plastic is present under the hood of modern vehicles.... and how hot plastic burns. hot enough to melt aluminum - which the bodies and hoods of Expeditions are made out of.
Modern DOT 4 brake fluid, engine oil, Automatic Transmission Fluid, and power steering fluid, is all highly flammable as well when heated. the brake fluid reservoir burning up would dump burning brake fluid unto the pavement and ignite nearby tires and anything else flammable - tires + wheel well liners alone will burn for hours. Power Steering lines and reservoir would do the same.
Fuel lines also remain under pressure for days after parking a vehicle, all vehicle fuel systems have some 'soft' line that could burn thus spraying a small amount of pressurized gasoline out further spreading the flames onto more plastics like bumper covers, foam bumper inserts, plastic grilles... no external fuel is needed as vehicles have all the fuel ready to go to burn for hours.
....i work on Corvettes and Camaros in my spare time and race often so I sorta know what im talking about if you havent surmised. Racetracks take fires very seriously for this reason. a small underhood fire will destroy an entire vehicle if left alone. Every racer knows this. this event is no different.
also you are incorrect about who travels in what. The Presidential motorcade consists of mostly armored vehicles but the secret service does lots of travelling outside of the motorcade to secure the routes and places scheduled to visit and this travel is best done incognito so as not to tip off any threats. AKA in civilian vehicles and not in large convoys cause anybody can spot 3 identical black Suburbans with government plates and tinted windows and know the feds are rolling in.
No, if it was just plastic burning, it wouldn't spread fast enough to ever get close to the temperature to melt the entire front end, fenders and all. It would need an added fuel source.
Keep on mind that this is the secret service we're talking about. They would never leave the vehicles unattended ever. There would always be multiple agents left to guard them.
Whatever happened, it was fast enough the the secret service didn't have time to react. If this was some sort of fuel leak from a faulty part in the engine compartment, then the vehicle must have been running and the key in the in the "on" position, for the fuel pump to be on and able to supply fuel.
Also, only the Ford trucks have aluminum body parts. The GM's and the Jeep are steel.
Steel frames aluminum body panels. what burned? the body panels. what was left? steel frames.
You didnt even consider the fact that nearly every fluid under the hood of vehicles is also flammable when heated.
The secret service was no longer in possession of the vehicles when they burned - they had been returned to Hertz and were parked at the airport. The vehicle was totally unattended for hours before somebody noticed the smoke plume.
You have consistently misreported key facts that are undisputable.
Examples:
-Ford does infact use aluminum in Expedition
-Who had possession of the vehicles when they burned
-How long the fire burned before being discovered
I suggest you do more research and rethink your position on this event.
An engine fire would need a constant supply of fuel to reach the temperature needed to damage nearby vehicles so extensively. There isn't enough combustible material inside an engine compartment to create such damage. An external fuel source must have been added.
This is very suspicious on its own... but when you also consider the fact that the president and his security team DO NOT travel in unarmoured civilian rental vehicles, it certainly raises eyebrows.
you forget just how much plastic is present under the hood of modern vehicles.... and how hot plastic burns. hot enough to melt aluminum - which the bodies and hoods of Expeditions are made out of.
Modern DOT 4 brake fluid, engine oil, Automatic Transmission Fluid, and power steering fluid, is all highly flammable as well when heated. the brake fluid reservoir burning up would dump burning brake fluid unto the pavement and ignite nearby tires and anything else flammable - tires + wheel well liners alone will burn for hours. Power Steering lines and reservoir would do the same.
Fuel lines also remain under pressure for days after parking a vehicle, all vehicle fuel systems have some 'soft' line that could burn thus spraying a small amount of pressurized gasoline out further spreading the flames onto more plastics like bumper covers, foam bumper inserts, plastic grilles... no external fuel is needed as vehicles have all the fuel ready to go to burn for hours.
....i work on Corvettes and Camaros in my spare time and race often so I sorta know what im talking about if you havent surmised. Racetracks take fires very seriously for this reason. a small underhood fire will destroy an entire vehicle if left alone. Every racer knows this. this event is no different.
also you are incorrect about who travels in what. The Presidential motorcade consists of mostly armored vehicles but the secret service does lots of travelling outside of the motorcade to secure the routes and places scheduled to visit and this travel is best done incognito so as not to tip off any threats. AKA in civilian vehicles and not in large convoys cause anybody can spot 3 identical black Suburbans with government plates and tinted windows and know the feds are rolling in.
No, if it was just plastic burning, it wouldn't spread fast enough to ever get close to the temperature to melt the entire front end, fenders and all. It would need an added fuel source.
Keep on mind that this is the secret service we're talking about. They would never leave the vehicles unattended ever. There would always be multiple agents left to guard them.
Whatever happened, it was fast enough the the secret service didn't have time to react. If this was some sort of fuel leak from a faulty part in the engine compartment, then the vehicle must have been running and the key in the in the "on" position, for the fuel pump to be on and able to supply fuel.
Also, only the Ford trucks have aluminum body parts. The GM's and the Jeep are steel.
Ford details aluminum in Expedition / Lincoln navigator: https://www.oem1stop.com/sites/default/files/OnTarget_vol3_highres.pdf
Steel frames aluminum body panels. what burned? the body panels. what was left? steel frames.
You didnt even consider the fact that nearly every fluid under the hood of vehicles is also flammable when heated.
The secret service was no longer in possession of the vehicles when they burned - they had been returned to Hertz and were parked at the airport. The vehicle was totally unattended for hours before somebody noticed the smoke plume.
You have consistently misreported key facts that are undisputable. Examples: -Ford does infact use aluminum in Expedition -Who had possession of the vehicles when they burned -How long the fire burned before being discovered I suggest you do more research and rethink your position on this event.