That's a simple answer you can give to almost every political action post here. Now try again but with deeper answers as to why 3 Rs broke formation and why people like Cruz and Rubio were asking Rs to vote yes on this.
What else was in that bill? You know the Dems pad every bill with a bunch of outrageous and expensive Leftist special projects completely unrelated to the name of the bill.
Question: Don't rail workers have normal medical and sick leave? Why does the government have to provide it? Someone help me out here. I don't know enough of the details to form a complete picture.
Rail workers opt out of several government programs when they sign on with the railroad companies.
Among them is Social Security.
You don't qualify for benefits under railroad retirement until 10 years of service minimum and if you leave before that, you obviously don't have any social security credits for that time frame.
Sick days and on call times are also "special" the more you dig into it.
While technically covered by FMLA, most rail companies force employees to go to court to get covered under it after the fact.
tl;dr, it's a real fucking mess.
More to the point, in this entire contract renegotiation, the union bosses, rail companies, and Biden administration were working in lockstep to shove the Biden contract down everyone's throats by fucking with the voting systems in the unions, hiding rules, refusing to release contract details until after they voted on it, etc.
The vote fraud alone should be a reason for Republicans to be demanding a yes vote on this followed by a special investigation into the Biden administration's meddling in union voting processes.
This is the full text of the bill. It was literally a clean resolution:
(1) Amend section 1—
(A) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c); and
(B) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:
“(b) Paid Sick Leave.—
“(1) IN GENERAL.—Any tentative agreements, side letters, or local carrier agreements entered into by the parties and ratified before the date of enactment of this joint resolution and the tentative agreements, side letters, and local carrier agreements made binding by subsection (a) shall, beginning 60 days after the date of enactment of this joint resolution, provide—
“(A) for 7 days of paid sick leave annually, except that nothing in this subparagraph shall supersede any existing labor agreement between such parties that provides for more than 7 days of paid sick leave annually; and
“(B) that the use of any 7 days of paid sick leave annually, regardless of whether such days are provided under a tentative agreement, side letter, or local carrier agreement or under an existing labor agreement described in subparagraph (A), will not result in any points, demerits, or disciplinary citations under any party's attendance policy.
“(2) EFFECT.—The modification referenced in paragraph (1) shall each have the same effect as though arrived at by agreement of such parties under the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 151 et seq.).”.
(2) Redesignate section 2 as section 3.
(3) After section 1, insert the following:
“SEC. 2. NEGOTIATIONS AND ARBITRATION.
“(a) Negotiations.—The parties to the disputes subject to Presidential Emergency Board No. 250, established pursuant to Executive Order 14077 of July 15, 2022, shall negotiate the implementation of the 7 days of paid sick leave imposed on such parties by section 1(b).
“(b) Binding Arbitration.—If, after 30 days after the date of enactment of this joint resolution, the parties are not able to reach agreement on the matter described in subsection (a), such parties shall enter into binding arbitration on such matter to provide for a final resolution of such unresolved matter.
“(c) Arbitration.—The arbitration described in subsection (b) shall be conducted pursuant to the provisions of section 7 of the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 157), and any award shall be enforceable under section 9 of the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 159), except that, in the public interest, compensation and expenses of the arbitrators shall be borne equally by the parties.
“(d) Deadline.—Not later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this joint resolution, any binding arbitration proceeding entered into pursuant to subsection (b) shall be completed, including issuance of any award by the arbitration board.”.
Passed the House of Representatives November 30, 2022.
Most railway workers get one day a month off. No weekends. This is because the bosses have been gutting the workforce to 'save' money. So the workers are all overworked. That's fine, I suppose, just squeeze them harder.
Seven days of paid sick-leave is chicken feed, and the Dems will celebrate this decision as a victory. Keep in mind that most corporations have fifteen paid sick days, and normal weekends. And in my opinion, this is not excessive. In New Zealand it is currently ten sick days, raised from five, just in the last year, when they realised many people would need at least five working days to get over bouts of Covid, which all the vaxxies are coming down with, with increasing frequency - i.e. more than twice a year, so people still have to chalk some of their sick days to annual leave, or unpaid leave anyway - given that they MUST isolate, and cannot go to work sick, as was the case before all this Covid nonsense.
However, I think republicans voted against the seven days, because they could see the workers getting screwed, when the railway companies are making record profits while reducing their services. They are all about shareholder profits, and are willing to waive all the normal worker-rights to do it. The unions also had no teeth in this decision, partly because they stupidly vote democrat. Weirdly, the Dems were historically always painted as the 'worker's party', but the tables are being turned, as they should be. I think this will maybe tip the unions into seeing the truth. Who were the three Rs that voted for this?
Also many people try to portray the unions as violent mobs who are greedy. This is a hangover from the 1980s. People tend to forget the role of unions which was to truly represent the workers - and of course communists jumped on that bandwagon with ease, with cries of 'workers unite'. I remember hearing union bosses described as 'card-carrying communists' in the eighties. Maybe some of them were. However, with some research, one can find that unions helped mine-workers to have at least SOME safety measures in place, so that they did not have to die with sickening regularity. Or, unions stopped child labour, and brought in 40 hour work-weeks - many were working 80 hours at back-breaking labor, before that. Now, they offer help with buying car-tires at a discount and things like that.
Keep in mind that rail-workers are exposed to asbestos and all sorts of chemicals every day, so they do get sick. But never mind, we must try and limit the number of days they get off from work, and overwork them, because hiring more people would cut into profits ...
Agreed 100%. I don’t want my tax dollars being spent on social welfare or other leftist programs. I also don’t want it spent on infrastructure or making my everyday life any better/easier. I want as much of my tax bill as possible to only fund owning the libs.
Because they all play for the same team.
Yes yes, realpolitik bla blah
That's a simple answer you can give to almost every political action post here. Now try again but with deeper answers as to why 3 Rs broke formation and why people like Cruz and Rubio were asking Rs to vote yes on this.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Ted-Cruz-says-Congress-shouldn-t-crush-unions-17620997.php
https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2022/11/rubio-congress-shouldn-t-vote-to-impose-agreement-on-rail-workers
Because they all play for the same team.
What else was in that bill? You know the Dems pad every bill with a bunch of outrageous and expensive Leftist special projects completely unrelated to the name of the bill.
Question: Don't rail workers have normal medical and sick leave? Why does the government have to provide it? Someone help me out here. I don't know enough of the details to form a complete picture.
Rail workers opt out of several government programs when they sign on with the railroad companies.
Among them is Social Security.
You don't qualify for benefits under railroad retirement until 10 years of service minimum and if you leave before that, you obviously don't have any social security credits for that time frame.
Sick days and on call times are also "special" the more you dig into it.
While technically covered by FMLA, most rail companies force employees to go to court to get covered under it after the fact.
tl;dr, it's a real fucking mess.
More to the point, in this entire contract renegotiation, the union bosses, rail companies, and Biden administration were working in lockstep to shove the Biden contract down everyone's throats by fucking with the voting systems in the unions, hiding rules, refusing to release contract details until after they voted on it, etc.
The vote fraud alone should be a reason for Republicans to be demanding a yes vote on this followed by a special investigation into the Biden administration's meddling in union voting processes.
Thanks.
Oh, almost forgot:
This is the full text of the bill. It was literally a clean resolution:
(1) Amend section 1—
(A) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c); and
(B) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:
“(b) Paid Sick Leave.—
“(1) IN GENERAL.—Any tentative agreements, side letters, or local carrier agreements entered into by the parties and ratified before the date of enactment of this joint resolution and the tentative agreements, side letters, and local carrier agreements made binding by subsection (a) shall, beginning 60 days after the date of enactment of this joint resolution, provide—
“(A) for 7 days of paid sick leave annually, except that nothing in this subparagraph shall supersede any existing labor agreement between such parties that provides for more than 7 days of paid sick leave annually; and
“(B) that the use of any 7 days of paid sick leave annually, regardless of whether such days are provided under a tentative agreement, side letter, or local carrier agreement or under an existing labor agreement described in subparagraph (A), will not result in any points, demerits, or disciplinary citations under any party's attendance policy.
“(2) EFFECT.—The modification referenced in paragraph (1) shall each have the same effect as though arrived at by agreement of such parties under the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 151 et seq.).”.
(2) Redesignate section 2 as section 3.
(3) After section 1, insert the following:
“SEC. 2. NEGOTIATIONS AND ARBITRATION.
“(a) Negotiations.—The parties to the disputes subject to Presidential Emergency Board No. 250, established pursuant to Executive Order 14077 of July 15, 2022, shall negotiate the implementation of the 7 days of paid sick leave imposed on such parties by section 1(b).
“(b) Binding Arbitration.—If, after 30 days after the date of enactment of this joint resolution, the parties are not able to reach agreement on the matter described in subsection (a), such parties shall enter into binding arbitration on such matter to provide for a final resolution of such unresolved matter.
“(c) Arbitration.—The arbitration described in subsection (b) shall be conducted pursuant to the provisions of section 7 of the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 157), and any award shall be enforceable under section 9 of the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 159), except that, in the public interest, compensation and expenses of the arbitrators shall be borne equally by the parties.
“(d) Deadline.—Not later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this joint resolution, any binding arbitration proceeding entered into pursuant to subsection (b) shall be completed, including issuance of any award by the arbitration board.”.
Passed the House of Representatives November 30, 2022.
Attest:
Most railway workers get one day a month off. No weekends. This is because the bosses have been gutting the workforce to 'save' money. So the workers are all overworked. That's fine, I suppose, just squeeze them harder.
Seven days of paid sick-leave is chicken feed, and the Dems will celebrate this decision as a victory. Keep in mind that most corporations have fifteen paid sick days, and normal weekends. And in my opinion, this is not excessive. In New Zealand it is currently ten sick days, raised from five, just in the last year, when they realised many people would need at least five working days to get over bouts of Covid, which all the vaxxies are coming down with, with increasing frequency - i.e. more than twice a year, so people still have to chalk some of their sick days to annual leave, or unpaid leave anyway - given that they MUST isolate, and cannot go to work sick, as was the case before all this Covid nonsense.
However, I think republicans voted against the seven days, because they could see the workers getting screwed, when the railway companies are making record profits while reducing their services. They are all about shareholder profits, and are willing to waive all the normal worker-rights to do it. The unions also had no teeth in this decision, partly because they stupidly vote democrat. Weirdly, the Dems were historically always painted as the 'worker's party', but the tables are being turned, as they should be. I think this will maybe tip the unions into seeing the truth. Who were the three Rs that voted for this?
Also many people try to portray the unions as violent mobs who are greedy. This is a hangover from the 1980s. People tend to forget the role of unions which was to truly represent the workers - and of course communists jumped on that bandwagon with ease, with cries of 'workers unite'. I remember hearing union bosses described as 'card-carrying communists' in the eighties. Maybe some of them were. However, with some research, one can find that unions helped mine-workers to have at least SOME safety measures in place, so that they did not have to die with sickening regularity. Or, unions stopped child labour, and brought in 40 hour work-weeks - many were working 80 hours at back-breaking labor, before that. Now, they offer help with buying car-tires at a discount and things like that.
Keep in mind that rail-workers are exposed to asbestos and all sorts of chemicals every day, so they do get sick. But never mind, we must try and limit the number of days they get off from work, and overwork them, because hiring more people would cut into profits ...
Agreed 100%. I don’t want my tax dollars being spent on social welfare or other leftist programs. I also don’t want it spent on infrastructure or making my everyday life any better/easier. I want as much of my tax bill as possible to only fund owning the libs.
Because its government getting involved in something in shouldn’t. Based on principle everyone should have voted no
Until the RLA gets appealed, rail workers are essentially treated as gov contractors without gov benefits.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/119/actions
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2022491
This is in regards to the potential upcoming rail strike on Dec 9th that Biden declared "mission accomplished" on in September with his failed PEB.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/15/president-biden-signs-executive-order-creating-a-presidential-emergency-board/