Vengeance - I think you're maybe coming to the wrong conclusion here.

I don't think anyone will claim to be able to NOT want some version of revenge/justice/vengeance, etc. if the things you described happened to someone we loved...

Or heck - look at the giant world event that is probably in front of us - mega pedo rings are going to be revealed - and the Jab/Lockdowns that were intentionally made to create harm and death to us all.

You are completely right - speaking for myself - if I claimed that I wouldn't want to unleash wrath on the heads of those people... I would absolutely be a hypocrite. Absolutely!

But that's not what we're telling you - we're saying the BIBLE says there is no irredeemable sin - except blapheming the Holy Spirit (which I have to learn more about, honestly).

I can't call other people liars - but I certainly think it would be completely normal and expected to have the reactions that you're saying we would.

Just don't mix US up with what the Bible says. It doesn't even matter what we say - only what the Bible says.

To believe in the need for Jesus, we are literally saying we are F'd without Him. We are completely screwed without Him - we are in NEED of help.

I hear what you're saying - that some of this talk can feel Pious. I get it.

But really - the message of the Bible is one that calls people who are broken (all of us) to someone who loves us and wants to save us from a really bad fate without Him.

Speaking for myself - I take the time to share this with you because, even though I never met you and likely never will - I care about you as a fellow human. I get nothing for stopping here and trading messages with you.

It's not about being pious - it's about sharing the Good News that we know with You.

We are broken and need rescued!

What I think is just as irrelevant as what you think when it comes to the Word of God.

You sound like you have other issues as well. Good luck!