So we listened to Riley's interview linked in another thread. Afterward, we went for a walk and the conversation naturally lent itself to what we had just heard. My husband is a God fearing patriot who served two tours in Iraq. He is military through and through.
My position: If the military didn't remove bodily autonomy by compelling members of the armed forces to put things into their bodies that they didn't want, people like Riley would still be in the military.
His position: Members of the armed services lose the right to bodily autonomy when they join. If one is ordered to take a given series of vaccines or meds, then one should have faith in the higher-ups who've deemed it necessary and follow those orders. If members of the military are allowed to pick and choose what they put in their bodies, then the chain of command breaks down and weakens the military as a whole. He went on to say that he was given all kinds of things when he served and he never questioned it. "It's the military way."
My counter position: But the c-19 vaccine was experimental and was only authorized for emergency use, which is why the FDA rushed the approval in order to give a legal leg to stand on with regard to the mandate. I contend that if members of the military have the right to refuse to put something in their bodies, then at least they are protected from anyone at the top who is involved in nefarious actions.
His contention: the military can't categorize orders (medical, combat etc) and function properly. An order is an order. Those who can't or won't follow them have the opportunity to leave the military.
We rarely talk about this kind of thing and today I was reminded of why...I can't help but wonder based on the Riley interview and papers if the CCP wasn't fully aware of this military mindset and this was part of their plan to weaken our military all along...with the help of JB of course...
As a former military member, lawful order are orders BUT the key word there is LAWFUL. This mRNA treatment was never lawful as the only version of it that was approved was never actually available. The called it "Cominarty" and as far as I know not a single DOD member ever got it.
https://www.uscg.mil/Coronavirus/Information/Article/2781403/covid-19-vaccine-mandated-for-all-military-members/
That is one of many links basically discussing the technically legal order to get that specific (EDIT) experimental treatment.
Using the emergency rules to force members to get different versions is highly dubious in the legal sense.
Also there is the general intent behind the orders and oath. Goal is to defend the Constitution and so on, if you do stupid things to your body, for example military members getting sunburned right before a mission, you could get written up or even fined. I actually knew some guys they got in trouble for this. Taking an experimental treatment where the risk is unknown VS Covid for young fit males, which has less than a 1% risk, could be interpreted in the exact same way.