The lithium chemistry is sensitive to thermal runaway when charging, so the dynamics of a heated system would make charging at cold night somewhat complicate
...a thermostat is a fucking simple invention, it exists in every fridge you own
No, you don't understand thermal runaway. It's complicated. By the time you detect that something is nearing too hot, it can be too late to correct
They don't need to detect nearly too hot, they need to prevent too cold. Prevent the battery from getting below 40 degrees for instance. If battery below 40, heat battery slowly until battery is 40. It isn't trying to keep it at an ideal 80
It isn't a heater to maintain ideal conditions it is a heater to prevent the worst damage. The worst damage is on the opposite end of the spectrum from the issues you are talking about. I am an engineer too, I have just also used a barbecue to make sure a semi starts. You are the embodiment of why I despise all engineers that are under 50. Your over intellectual idiots that do not understand process variation under real world conditions
Ah yes, insulting garage mechanics during a discussion about garage mechanics, and focusing on your experience with electronics design. Because that is what is relevant here. You dont even need electronics to do what I said.
Thermal runaway is from getting too hot, not preventing them from freezing. This is pretty damn simple. Like I said, over intellectual. Seriously, you think no one runs a block heater and a trickle charger at the same time? Yes, you can apply heat, cause an exothermic reaction, increase a reaction rate, create more heat, and get a runaway... not from a lithium battery being kept at a minimum of 40 degrees though. The battery doesnt know that you are heating it, it just knows it is at a given temperature. And that shit doesnt happen at 40 degrees.
Now, how exactly do you think I am inflating my opinion regarding vehicles? Because all I said is that you can keep shit from freezing while also charging a battery, which isnt that hard of a thing to do. I also view vehicles in general as disposable - I still have a 93 Dodge Ram at the bottom of a river in South Dakota from when I punched a crane operator. Hell I ripped a tailgate off my project truck this morning. Yeah, I break shit, I make money in the process, then go back to breaking shit at a slower rate than what it makes me money.
...a thermostat is a fucking simple invention, it exists in every fridge you own
They don't need to detect nearly too hot, they need to prevent too cold. Prevent the battery from getting below 40 degrees for instance. If battery below 40, heat battery slowly until battery is 40. It isn't trying to keep it at an ideal 80
It isn't a heater to maintain ideal conditions it is a heater to prevent the worst damage. The worst damage is on the opposite end of the spectrum from the issues you are talking about. I am an engineer too, I have just also used a barbecue to make sure a semi starts. You are the embodiment of why I despise all engineers that are under 50. Your over intellectual idiots that do not understand process variation under real world conditions
Ah yes, insulting garage mechanics during a discussion about garage mechanics, and focusing on your experience with electronics design. Because that is what is relevant here. You dont even need electronics to do what I said.
Thermal runaway is from getting too hot, not preventing them from freezing. This is pretty damn simple. Like I said, over intellectual. Seriously, you think no one runs a block heater and a trickle charger at the same time? Yes, you can apply heat, cause an exothermic reaction, increase a reaction rate, create more heat, and get a runaway... not from a lithium battery being kept at a minimum of 40 degrees though. The battery doesnt know that you are heating it, it just knows it is at a given temperature. And that shit doesnt happen at 40 degrees.
Now, how exactly do you think I am inflating my opinion regarding vehicles? Because all I said is that you can keep shit from freezing while also charging a battery, which isnt that hard of a thing to do. I also view vehicles in general as disposable - I still have a 93 Dodge Ram at the bottom of a river in South Dakota from when I punched a crane operator. Hell I ripped a tailgate off my project truck this morning. Yeah, I break shit, I make money in the process, then go back to breaking shit at a slower rate than what it makes me money.