Q said one word "no" to the question. Clearly not interested in elaborating at that time. Honestly, it was more disinfo when taken in this context. Q made the minds of probably 80-90% of their followers literally shut down all critical thought on the subject -> "Welp, Q said it so it must be true".
That Q will ultimately be shown to be correct in the greater sens is a small consolation IMHO. For whatever reason, Q wanted their followers to remain ignorant to this centuries old deception. A deception that was created to make humanity believe they were insignificant and random I might add.
We can speculate on Q's motives until the cows come home. Half this board thinks Q's posts are gospel. Some understand Q was a mixture of truths, lies, half-truths, etc.
The part of earth we are aware of and "allowed" to visit, 6 continents and 4 oceans, is scientifically and demonstrably a horizontal plane. This isn't even arguable today. There isn't one proof of curvature, nor rotation, nor movement of the earth. Let alone all the lies about all the bodies in "outer space".
I've yet to find one lamestream, establishment "fact" about globe earth that is actually true. Everything we were taught to believe about where we are in the grand scheme is factually incorrect. "The bigger the lie, the easier it is to pass off as truth."
I'll let you decide what Q's motive may have been. However, the result was stifling the truth and shutting down the critical thinking of Q followers on this particular topic.
All you have is talking confidently "this has been proved, this has been debunked, etc"
Kinda like global warming freaks who have zero scientific evidence, "actually I have so much evidence that it would take too long to say it, but everyone knows you have zero evidence of the earth being round."
I've been anxiously awaiting just ONE proof of the globe that holds up for over 5 years. You'd think there would be dozens, even hundreds. And yet there are none.
I know you can't offer one up so I'll let you get back to your blind belief in authority. The same thing your pals, the "global warming freaks", are wholly dependent upon.
As much as I can, how much critical thought have you given it? Do you even know what critical thinking is? I don't know what Ron means but I'll assume that it's some inside joke you assume everyone else gets just like you assume everyone will believe flat earth theory if they would just "critically think" and watch some blurry video of a Nikon camera "showing stars the way they really are"
Ron White - the comedian, aka "Tater Salad". You don't get that with your handle? Relax, that was in good fun. Half the problem we have on this board is everyone has their panties up in a bunch. Especially globe believers who are in a deep state of denial!!!
I've invested thousands of hours into flat earth research. I stood unconvinced of either side for about 2.5 years (~2015 - 2018). But the last 5 years have piled on proof on top of another. Most of those proofs being that the globe position cannot be supported.
What shocked me most was that there there are ZERO scientific proofs that can validate any of the establishment claims. That's right, ZERO. Not the "Cavendish experiment, Michelson-Morley, nor Eratosthenes. All of Einstein's nonsense has been easily destroyed as well. Add to that, there's no proof of a force called "Newtonian gravity" let alone Einstein's more ludicrous "Einstenian gravity" which has been disproven 95% of the time (the other 5% is just bad data). The very idea that space is a vacuum, and yet, there is something in it called "the fabric of space-time" that can somehow be warped is the icing on the cake. It's all the musings of a mad man, promoted by an establishment that wishes us to remain in a deep state of ignorance.
Here's just a short list of the absurdity of the globe
No scientific experiment can prove the earth is in motion - even Einstein (Zero stones) was forced to admit this. Check
The distance calculations to the sun and moon are all based on ASSUMPTIONS, ludicrous ones I might add. Check
Gravity, as a "force of nature" cannot be proven, therefore does not exist as claimed. Check
Speed of Light, another lie, as it can't be measured. Truth being, light has no speed. It is ever-present in varying degrees of visibility to our limited senses
Quantum super-position - Another ludicrous lie with zero proof. Pure fantastical theory. Check
Photons - Another lie. No such things exist and that's why they've never been found. Check
Space as a vacuum - Again, pure theory and unproven. Space is filled with the "Aether", as it must be, the leading theory of the truth-tellers back around the turn of the 20th century. Check
That gas always evenly expands into a vacuum in classical physics, yet when it comes to earth's atmosphere, this law is broken. Check
That every picture and video ever produced by NASA is actually a photoshopped, modified image (never a photograph) or a CJI video, because, in their own words "it has to be". Check
That you can't see anything 93 million miles away. Check
That the moon landing was a painfully obvious fraud. Check
That water always finds its level, aka "sea level". Never has it been found to be "curved". Never has a photo or video been taken of the several-mile water bulge that must exist due to "moon gravity" prediction. Check
And I could go on and on....and on. But at some point, you start wondering, well what exactly is true that the establishment tells us? Anything? For the love of God, surely something they're telling us about space and gravity and yada yada is true. And yet, you'll find that there is nothing beyond things you can easily verify for yourself -- which -- they could obviously not lie about when this is the case.
I've carefully listened to the globe-defenders arguments dwindle and dwindle as the flat earth community shoots them down one by one. At this stage of the game, the globers defense has been reduced to "observational arguments" and "muh gravity" to maintain their positions. And these guys never give an inch. This is how I know they're sadly mistaken. They never admit the flat-earther community shattered their previous arguments. They simply don't address those any longer.
Honestly, I wish I could think of one legitimate globe-believer out there to at least lend this side of the argument some credibility. But sadly, there are none. "Professor Dave" is the biggest laughing-stock out there. He's not a professor, a total leftist nutjob, condescending to a fault, supports childhood hormones and transgender surgery, and invents strawman arguments to make himself appear smart to his zombified followers. This is the best the globe defenders have to offer?
And as to Neil Degrasse Tyson, jab supporter, virus believer, and well paid establishment shill, what else needs to be said? Bill Nye the science guy? I mean, c'mon.
There's this really scary dude that calls himself Amen-Ra or some such, that just gives you the creeps looking at him. He's all talk, no facts.
Now of course there's the 3 bitcoin challenge from Dave Weiss for anybody that can provide one single scientific proof of the globe. While only worth ~$60K right now, it was worth closer to $200K this time last year. And yet still, no takers.
So where does that leave us exactly? Nobody wants $200K? That can't be it and we both know it. The only logical conclusion one can draw is that the establishment has taught us nothing but SCIENTISM our entire lives. It's riddled with deception, half-truths and bald-faced lies.
I had a guy here on GA tell me recently that he's a staunch globe-defender but didn't want to dox himself when I told him to claim the prize. He's convinced that ship gyroscopes prove the earth is a globe. Like if that were the case, the flat-earth community wouldn't have heard that one long ago and there would have never been anything to debate.
But this is just an example of what the globe-defenders arguments have been reduced to. This is just like all the star pattern, precession and observational arguments that have been made these past 10 years. They globe-defenders claim their perspective on these things makes a flat earth impossible. But when the flat earth community shows how these things would work on a flat earth, the globers just say "nuh uh" and plug their ears and go "lalalalalalala".
This is where the {NON-}debate stands today. Globe-defenders won't concede a single thing to the flat earth community, like a bunch of whiney babies. They won't give one inch on any single point. Case in point, the Eratosthenes sticks in ancient Greece experiment. The flat-earth community went out of their way to demonstrate how this experiment works perfectly with a local sun (~3500 miles away). This is what our God-given senses tell us, a local sun with parallel rays. And when this is the case, the Eratosthenes experiment works. But what do the globe-defenders say in response? "Nuh uh - na-na-na-nana - the sun can't be that close because my scientism books say so" and other childish remarks. Not a one of them can just say "well, if the sun really was that close, then yes, you guys are right". Not a one of them can even concede this simple point.
You know what that tells me? Massive cognitive dissonance at work. They have a theoretical model built into their consciousness, and to shatter it would shake the foundations of their make-believe existence. And I do understand, this can be majorly traumatic. So I'm not criticizing them in this regard in the least. I feel badly for them, having been so badly brainwashed. But this explains their childish behavior and unwillingness to "play fair". The main flat-earth guys I listen to don't even want to talk with any of the globe-defenders any longer. They gave it every possible effort these past 5 years. But sadly, the globe-defenders never grew up. They just dug in deeper, without a shred of science to back up their position.
So believe it or not, that's just a brief sketch of what I've researched. I could go on and on for hours. The simple fact is, we can see too far. You don't need me to tell you that or anybody else. You can go get yourself a camera with a high-powered telephoto lens and prove it all to yourself. The alleged radius of the earth can't be what they say it is because of this. Yet another lie uncovered. And not ironically, some globe defenders have conceded this point, still defending the globe, but saying the radius calculation is too small (and therefore the size and diameter of course).
So yeah, I've done a metric shite-ton of research. More than anyone else I personally know. I'm a truther to the core. If someone came forward with irrefutable proof of the globe, I'd change my position in a nano second. But none has been forthcoming in the 8 years I've been researching. The score is like 287 - 0 right now so I'm pretty confident the irrefutable globe proof isn't ever going to be proffered.
Every time I talk with someone about flat-earth here on GA, I always ask, what is it that has you so convinced of the globe? What one thing do you think proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt? Odds are, the flat-earth community has debunked it. But as to all the unfalsifiable theories and models, it should be understood that nobody can debunk or prove false something that has yet to be proven true. It's like arguing over what color unicorn dung is in the fall.
Q said one word "no" to the question. Clearly not interested in elaborating at that time. Honestly, it was more disinfo when taken in this context. Q made the minds of probably 80-90% of their followers literally shut down all critical thought on the subject -> "Welp, Q said it so it must be true".
That Q will ultimately be shown to be correct in the greater sens is a small consolation IMHO. For whatever reason, Q wanted their followers to remain ignorant to this centuries old deception. A deception that was created to make humanity believe they were insignificant and random I might add.
Then please, enlighten us on what you know to be true that Q was too scared to touch on.
What critical thought needs to be given to flat earth that hasn't already been given more than it deserves?
We can speculate on Q's motives until the cows come home. Half this board thinks Q's posts are gospel. Some understand Q was a mixture of truths, lies, half-truths, etc.
The part of earth we are aware of and "allowed" to visit, 6 continents and 4 oceans, is scientifically and demonstrably a horizontal plane. This isn't even arguable today. There isn't one proof of curvature, nor rotation, nor movement of the earth. Let alone all the lies about all the bodies in "outer space".
I've yet to find one lamestream, establishment "fact" about globe earth that is actually true. Everything we were taught to believe about where we are in the grand scheme is factually incorrect. "The bigger the lie, the easier it is to pass off as truth."
I'll let you decide what Q's motive may have been. However, the result was stifling the truth and shutting down the critical thinking of Q followers on this particular topic.
All you have is talking confidently "this has been proved, this has been debunked, etc"
Kinda like global warming freaks who have zero scientific evidence, "actually I have so much evidence that it would take too long to say it, but everyone knows you have zero evidence of the earth being round."
I've been anxiously awaiting just ONE proof of the globe that holds up for over 5 years. You'd think there would be dozens, even hundreds. And yet there are none.
I know you can't offer one up so I'll let you get back to your blind belief in authority. The same thing your pals, the "global warming freaks", are wholly dependent upon.
What critical thought have you given to flat earth... Ron? :)
As much as I can, how much critical thought have you given it? Do you even know what critical thinking is? I don't know what Ron means but I'll assume that it's some inside joke you assume everyone else gets just like you assume everyone will believe flat earth theory if they would just "critically think" and watch some blurry video of a Nikon camera "showing stars the way they really are"
Ron White - the comedian, aka "Tater Salad". You don't get that with your handle? Relax, that was in good fun. Half the problem we have on this board is everyone has their panties up in a bunch. Especially globe believers who are in a deep state of denial!!!
I've invested thousands of hours into flat earth research. I stood unconvinced of either side for about 2.5 years (~2015 - 2018). But the last 5 years have piled on proof on top of another. Most of those proofs being that the globe position cannot be supported.
What shocked me most was that there there are ZERO scientific proofs that can validate any of the establishment claims. That's right, ZERO. Not the "Cavendish experiment, Michelson-Morley, nor Eratosthenes. All of Einstein's nonsense has been easily destroyed as well. Add to that, there's no proof of a force called "Newtonian gravity" let alone Einstein's more ludicrous "Einstenian gravity" which has been disproven 95% of the time (the other 5% is just bad data). The very idea that space is a vacuum, and yet, there is something in it called "the fabric of space-time" that can somehow be warped is the icing on the cake. It's all the musings of a mad man, promoted by an establishment that wishes us to remain in a deep state of ignorance.
Here's just a short list of the absurdity of the globe
No scientific experiment can prove the earth is in motion - even Einstein (Zero stones) was forced to admit this. Check
The distance calculations to the sun and moon are all based on ASSUMPTIONS, ludicrous ones I might add. Check
Gravity, as a "force of nature" cannot be proven, therefore does not exist as claimed. Check
Speed of Light, another lie, as it can't be measured. Truth being, light has no speed. It is ever-present in varying degrees of visibility to our limited senses
Quantum super-position - Another ludicrous lie with zero proof. Pure fantastical theory. Check
Photons - Another lie. No such things exist and that's why they've never been found. Check
Space as a vacuum - Again, pure theory and unproven. Space is filled with the "Aether", as it must be, the leading theory of the truth-tellers back around the turn of the 20th century. Check
That gas always evenly expands into a vacuum in classical physics, yet when it comes to earth's atmosphere, this law is broken. Check
That every picture and video ever produced by NASA is actually a photoshopped, modified image (never a photograph) or a CJI video, because, in their own words "it has to be". Check
That you can't see anything 93 million miles away. Check
That the moon landing was a painfully obvious fraud. Check
That water always finds its level, aka "sea level". Never has it been found to be "curved". Never has a photo or video been taken of the several-mile water bulge that must exist due to "moon gravity" prediction. Check
And I could go on and on....and on. But at some point, you start wondering, well what exactly is true that the establishment tells us? Anything? For the love of God, surely something they're telling us about space and gravity and yada yada is true. And yet, you'll find that there is nothing beyond things you can easily verify for yourself -- which -- they could obviously not lie about when this is the case.
I've carefully listened to the globe-defenders arguments dwindle and dwindle as the flat earth community shoots them down one by one. At this stage of the game, the globers defense has been reduced to "observational arguments" and "muh gravity" to maintain their positions. And these guys never give an inch. This is how I know they're sadly mistaken. They never admit the flat-earther community shattered their previous arguments. They simply don't address those any longer.
Honestly, I wish I could think of one legitimate globe-believer out there to at least lend this side of the argument some credibility. But sadly, there are none. "Professor Dave" is the biggest laughing-stock out there. He's not a professor, a total leftist nutjob, condescending to a fault, supports childhood hormones and transgender surgery, and invents strawman arguments to make himself appear smart to his zombified followers. This is the best the globe defenders have to offer?
And as to Neil Degrasse Tyson, jab supporter, virus believer, and well paid establishment shill, what else needs to be said? Bill Nye the science guy? I mean, c'mon.
There's this really scary dude that calls himself Amen-Ra or some such, that just gives you the creeps looking at him. He's all talk, no facts.
Now of course there's the 3 bitcoin challenge from Dave Weiss for anybody that can provide one single scientific proof of the globe. While only worth ~$60K right now, it was worth closer to $200K this time last year. And yet still, no takers.
So where does that leave us exactly? Nobody wants $200K? That can't be it and we both know it. The only logical conclusion one can draw is that the establishment has taught us nothing but SCIENTISM our entire lives. It's riddled with deception, half-truths and bald-faced lies.
I had a guy here on GA tell me recently that he's a staunch globe-defender but didn't want to dox himself when I told him to claim the prize. He's convinced that ship gyroscopes prove the earth is a globe. Like if that were the case, the flat-earth community wouldn't have heard that one long ago and there would have never been anything to debate.
But this is just an example of what the globe-defenders arguments have been reduced to. This is just like all the star pattern, precession and observational arguments that have been made these past 10 years. They globe-defenders claim their perspective on these things makes a flat earth impossible. But when the flat earth community shows how these things would work on a flat earth, the globers just say "nuh uh" and plug their ears and go "lalalalalalala".
This is where the {NON-}debate stands today. Globe-defenders won't concede a single thing to the flat earth community, like a bunch of whiney babies. They won't give one inch on any single point. Case in point, the Eratosthenes sticks in ancient Greece experiment. The flat-earth community went out of their way to demonstrate how this experiment works perfectly with a local sun (~3500 miles away). This is what our God-given senses tell us, a local sun with parallel rays. And when this is the case, the Eratosthenes experiment works. But what do the globe-defenders say in response? "Nuh uh - na-na-na-nana - the sun can't be that close because my scientism books say so" and other childish remarks. Not a one of them can just say "well, if the sun really was that close, then yes, you guys are right". Not a one of them can even concede this simple point.
You know what that tells me? Massive cognitive dissonance at work. They have a theoretical model built into their consciousness, and to shatter it would shake the foundations of their make-believe existence. And I do understand, this can be majorly traumatic. So I'm not criticizing them in this regard in the least. I feel badly for them, having been so badly brainwashed. But this explains their childish behavior and unwillingness to "play fair". The main flat-earth guys I listen to don't even want to talk with any of the globe-defenders any longer. They gave it every possible effort these past 5 years. But sadly, the globe-defenders never grew up. They just dug in deeper, without a shred of science to back up their position.
So believe it or not, that's just a brief sketch of what I've researched. I could go on and on for hours. The simple fact is, we can see too far. You don't need me to tell you that or anybody else. You can go get yourself a camera with a high-powered telephoto lens and prove it all to yourself. The alleged radius of the earth can't be what they say it is because of this. Yet another lie uncovered. And not ironically, some globe defenders have conceded this point, still defending the globe, but saying the radius calculation is too small (and therefore the size and diameter of course).
So yeah, I've done a metric shite-ton of research. More than anyone else I personally know. I'm a truther to the core. If someone came forward with irrefutable proof of the globe, I'd change my position in a nano second. But none has been forthcoming in the 8 years I've been researching. The score is like 287 - 0 right now so I'm pretty confident the irrefutable globe proof isn't ever going to be proffered.
Every time I talk with someone about flat-earth here on GA, I always ask, what is it that has you so convinced of the globe? What one thing do you think proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt? Odds are, the flat-earth community has debunked it. But as to all the unfalsifiable theories and models, it should be understood that nobody can debunk or prove false something that has yet to be proven true. It's like arguing over what color unicorn dung is in the fall.
And oh yeah, you should watch the Ron White "Tater Salad" bit. It's a great story!!! -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUaSTSKFZc