Jethro didn’t this on the Beverly Hillbillies TV show back in the sixties, except when he switched the car from gasoline water, the car died.
This is one of those stories that makes GW look like conspiracy kooks.
I’ve been an engineer for 40 years and I can tell you as the person said at the beginning of the video, it takes more energy to separate hydrogen from oxygen than you get in return from burning the hydrogen, unless someone had found a cheap catalyst that would give up energy during the separation process, and then we would have a viable inexhaustible source of energy.
Electrical power on a vehicle is not free. It comes as a direct result of consuming fuel within the engine to drive the alternator. With a typical engine efficiency of 40%, a belt efficiency of 98% and an alternator efficiency of 55%, this leads to an overall energy conversion efficiency of only 21%.
It's roughly 260k joules of energy to split 1 mole of water into hydrogen and oxygen.
1 mole of hydrogen offers roughly 280k joules of potential energy at combustion. And we would have two moles of oxygen or roughly 12k more joules burning that up. Let's just say there's 10% "more energy" from the process to keep things simple. Awesome! Thats why the water car theory seems to make sense.
The issue is that you need to produce 5x more energy for an ICE car to get the 260k joules to split the water molecules (cars have about 20% efficiency). Or 1,300,000 joules. Now you've lost a ton of energy. But at least it's not gasoline, right?
Because it takes 4x more energy to split the atoms than you would get from burning the atoms, the system can't run using only water. You would need electricity in a battery that couldn't be recharged or you would be burning gas in a horribly inefficient manner.
If you did overcome the efficiency problem of a combustion engine and got to 100%, you'd net about .15 miles per gallon in the average car, as you'd only have available the net difference between splitting molecules (takes energy) and burning them (creates energy). That's not a good solution.
Simply put, ICE engines cannot run on water. Period.
A 1.5v drycell battery can separate oxygen from hydrogen, however if you wanted to use the hydrogen to turn a generator to charge the battery, the entire system would drain down to zero energy in a short time because it takes more energy to separate the hydrogen than is ever recovered.
I remember hearing Stanley on the Mike Murphy show in the 80's or 90's. Mike was a radio guy who was into conspiracies and ufo's. Mr. Murphy believed also that Stanley was murdered. If it didn't work, why would they feel they had to kill him? I know nothing about engineering, just being devils advocate.
Better answer: He wasn't murdered. Neither Mr. Murphy nor anyone can overcome the laws of chemistry and physics. This is sort of high school level science, so those who believe Mr. Murphy are likely to believe a lot of things outside their knowledge.
His death was attributed to an aneurism, but people think it was poison. Who knows. Did he find a catalyst that could provide the energy needed to make the separation of hydrogen and oxygen practical? If so, he found the holy grail of science, because it would result in limitless inexpensive energy. I am very doubtful that he did.
Jethro didn’t this on the Beverly Hillbillies TV show back in the sixties, except when he switched the car from gasoline water, the car died.
This is one of those stories that makes GW look like conspiracy kooks.
I’ve been an engineer for 40 years and I can tell you as the person said at the beginning of the video, it takes more energy to separate hydrogen from oxygen than you get in return from burning the hydrogen, unless someone had found a cheap catalyst that would give up energy during the separation process, and then we would have a viable inexhaustible source of energy.
Absolutely not possible.
Electrical power on a vehicle is not free. It comes as a direct result of consuming fuel within the engine to drive the alternator. With a typical engine efficiency of 40%, a belt efficiency of 98% and an alternator efficiency of 55%, this leads to an overall energy conversion efficiency of only 21%.
Maybe this will help...
It's roughly 260k joules of energy to split 1 mole of water into hydrogen and oxygen.
1 mole of hydrogen offers roughly 280k joules of potential energy at combustion. And we would have two moles of oxygen or roughly 12k more joules burning that up. Let's just say there's 10% "more energy" from the process to keep things simple. Awesome! Thats why the water car theory seems to make sense.
The issue is that you need to produce 5x more energy for an ICE car to get the 260k joules to split the water molecules (cars have about 20% efficiency). Or 1,300,000 joules. Now you've lost a ton of energy. But at least it's not gasoline, right?
Because it takes 4x more energy to split the atoms than you would get from burning the atoms, the system can't run using only water. You would need electricity in a battery that couldn't be recharged or you would be burning gas in a horribly inefficient manner.
If you did overcome the efficiency problem of a combustion engine and got to 100%, you'd net about .15 miles per gallon in the average car, as you'd only have available the net difference between splitting molecules (takes energy) and burning them (creates energy). That's not a good solution.
Simply put, ICE engines cannot run on water. Period.
A 1.5v drycell battery can separate oxygen from hydrogen, however if you wanted to use the hydrogen to turn a generator to charge the battery, the entire system would drain down to zero energy in a short time because it takes more energy to separate the hydrogen than is ever recovered.
I remember hearing Stanley on the Mike Murphy show in the 80's or 90's. Mike was a radio guy who was into conspiracies and ufo's. Mr. Murphy believed also that Stanley was murdered. If it didn't work, why would they feel they had to kill him? I know nothing about engineering, just being devils advocate.
Better answer: He wasn't murdered. Neither Mr. Murphy nor anyone can overcome the laws of chemistry and physics. This is sort of high school level science, so those who believe Mr. Murphy are likely to believe a lot of things outside their knowledge.
His death was attributed to an aneurism, but people think it was poison. Who knows. Did he find a catalyst that could provide the energy needed to make the separation of hydrogen and oxygen practical? If so, he found the holy grail of science, because it would result in limitless inexpensive energy. I am very doubtful that he did.