The heliocentric round earth model is not incompatible with young earth creationism. Not only am I myself a young earth creationist, but also this is the standard position for every major institute that promotes creation science. I find it bizarre that every FE proponent I talk to thinks they have the exclusive corner on promoting creationism.
Copernicus? Masonic priest.
And? so were all the Founding Fathers. Should we just throw their ideas out the window and go back to a monarchy? Accusations of Freemasonry is an ad hominem attack, not a valid criticism of a scientific model.
You are prohibited from traveling past the 60th parallel...You cannot demonstrate the curvature of the earth using a formula for a sphere... water seeks its own level...
I have heard every flat earther make those exact claims verbatim. For all your admonitions to think for yourself, y'all have the weird tendency to use the exact same catchphrases and arguments. Furthermore, all of these claims are patently false.
FE sounds completely bat**** crazy...
I wouldn't say that, but it's internally inconsistent, and no two flat earthers agree on what the correct model is. Every time someone tries to explain inconsistencies with the FE model, a flat earther comes along and says "that's not what real flat earthers believe", despite documented evidence that the model in question was formulated by another flat earther. Y'all need two separate models to explain the day/night cycle and the seasons cycle.
...ignoring God, His word (firmament), and making you out to be just an insignificant grain of sand in an infinite universe... and not one of God's children
I'd like to unpack this a bit since I am a Christian and creation science is one of my favorite topics. Apologies for the upcoming wall of text, but I'm extremely passionate and well read about this subject.
The Bible does use the word "firmament", but this was a translation choice from the folks who translated the Vulgate into Latin, and these people were associated with the Roman Catholic Church. So if you're concerned about associations with Freemasonry, then associations with RCC should also give you pause. The original Hebrew word is "raqia", and the meaning associated with this word is the idea of beating out a sheet of metal on an anvil. Hence why the translaters chose the Latin word "firmamentum", which is where the English firmament and firm come from. This imo doesn't mesh well with an vapor canopy, ice canopy, or whatever material the FE dome is allegedly made out of. I'll get into this later, but I think this firmament is actually the earth's crust, which used to have a layer of water trapped under it; this water was later released to cause Noah's Flood (btw, how exactly does the Flood work in a FE model?)
Next, not even the Big Bang model specifically requires an infinite universe, though it doesn't rule out that possibility. As far as causing feelings of insignificance, this is merely personal interpretation. The Psalms state that the heavens declare the glory of God, so if the universe really does have billions of galaxies and incomprehensible numbers of stars, all that does is show how powerful, intelligent, and awesome God is. The fact that He is simultaneously capable of shaping galaxy clusters and paying attention to our needs/saving us from our failures just makes me love and appreciate Him more. I don't see how a vast universe is incompatible with us being God's children. He still made us and sent His Son to save us after all.
If you want a resource that shows how the Big Bang/evolutionary model is wrong, while still showing how a heliocentric, round earth cosmology is compatible with Scripture and actually better explains the biological and geological evidence, check out the link below. It's a free online book about creation science with a unique model for Creation and the Flood. Everything is backed by science, reason, and Scripture. The book even shows how mainstream plate tectonic theory is wrong and doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Definitely worth a read.
The heliocentric round earth model is not incompatible with young earth creationism. Not only am I myself a young earth creationist, but also this is the standard position for every major institute that promotes creation science. I find it bizarre that every FE proponent I talk to thinks they have the exclusive corner on promoting creationism.
And? so were all the Founding Fathers. Should we just throw their ideas out the window and go back to a monarchy? Accusations of Freemasonry is an ad hominem attack, not a valid criticism of a scientific model.
I have heard every flat earther make those exact claims verbatim. For all your admonitions to think for yourself, y'all have the weird tendency to use the exact same catchphrases and arguments. Furthermore, all of these claims are patently false.
I wouldn't say that, but it's internally inconsistent, and no two flat earthers agree on what the correct model is. Every time someone tries to explain inconsistencies with the FE model, a flat earther comes along and says "that's not what real flat earthers believe", despite documented evidence that the model in question was formulated by another flat earther. Y'all need two separate models to explain the day/night cycle and the seasons cycle.
I'd like to unpack this a bit since I am a Christian and creation science is one of my favorite topics. Apologies for the upcoming wall of text, but I'm extremely passionate and well read about this subject.
The Bible does use the word "firmament", but this was a translation choice from the folks who translated the Vulgate into Latin, and these people were associated with the Roman Catholic Church. So if you're concerned about associations with Freemasonry, then associations with RCC should also give you pause. The original Hebrew word is "raqia", and the meaning associated with this word is the idea of beating out a sheet of metal on an anvil. Hence why the translaters chose the Latin word "firmamentum", which is where the English firmament and firm come from. This imo doesn't mesh well with an vapor canopy, ice canopy, or whatever material the FE dome is allegedly made out of. I'll get into this later, but I think this firmament is actually the earth's crust, which used to have a layer of water trapped under it; this water was later released to cause Noah's Flood (btw, how exactly does the Flood work in a FE model?)
Next, not even the Big Bang model specifically requires an infinite universe, though it doesn't rule out that possibility. As far as causing feelings of insignificance, this is merely personal interpretation. The Psalms state that the heavens declare the glory of God, so if the universe really does have billions of galaxies and incomprehensible numbers of stars, all that does is show how powerful, intelligent, and awesome God is. The fact that He is simultaneously capable of shaping galaxy clusters and paying attention to our needs/saving us from our failures just makes me love and appreciate Him more. I don't see how a vast universe is incompatible with us being God's children. He still made us and sent His Son to save us after all.
If you want a resource that shows how the Big Bang/evolutionary model is wrong, while still showing how a heliocentric, round earth cosmology is compatible with Scripture and actually better explains the biological and geological evidence, check out the link below. It's a free online book about creation science with a unique model for Creation and the Flood. Everything is backed by science, reason, and Scripture. The book even shows how mainstream plate tectonic theory is wrong and doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Definitely worth a read.
https://hpt.rsr.org/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html
If you've made it this far, thank you. If you'd like to discuss it more I've got plenty of free time on my hands.