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FlySciFiGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

The ones who claim to have inside info from an interdemensional council of beings of light are the funniest. They should stop grifting and start writing sci fi novels.

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FlySciFiGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, my mother-in-law is caught up in the NESARA and Med Bed stuff as well, plus a literal interpretation of "10 days of darkness". You make a good point that it doesn't really matter that celebrity X is secretly alive.

Only thing we can do is try to teach them logic and discernment. On Telegram there's a channel called the Clickbait Expose Channel that helps expose some of the more obvious frauds.

I'd argue that Telegram and Rumble themselves aren't complete cancer, though Telegram has a much bigger problem with spam and bots. Both platforms have Pepe Lives Matter, Just Human, and other good channels with Q content, so I'd say that makes them worth it. Truth Social is much better than both though, can't wait until it has DMs and video streaming.

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

No worries, though I do share PeePeeHead69's opinions on this subject.

You are correct that there is a dearth of truth in our world, and there are many things that we can't verify for ourselves; to use your example, we can't go see JFK Jr.'s body in person. However, if you (or anyone) are going to assert that official records (and Q) are lying, that he's actually alive, then it is your obligation to provide credible evidence to support your assertion. It is the duty of the proponent of a theory to provide evidence.

Do mainstream news sources lie? Yes, and arguably more often than not. Should we question everything? Yes, indeed we should. But our distrust of news sources and questioning of popularly held opinions must be guided by what evidence is actually available. Simply asserting that current evidence is untrustworthy isn't helpful, unless counter evidence is presented.

Evidence in favor of JFK Jr. being dead:

  1. Family statements
  2. News media reporting on the death and funeral
  3. Military records that they were involved in the ceremony
  4. Q's direct statement that he is dead (in the very same drop Q also said that the earth is round, so the credulity of both of these statements are linked)

Evidence against him being dead (based on my discussions with proponents of this theory):

  1. The desire of some people to believe he's alive
  2. The fact that he was buried at sea instead of with the rest of his family
  3. The assumption that Q lied due to arbitrary application of the statement "disinfo is necessary".

However, you'll observe that the "evidence" in the second category isn't really evidence. The first item is wishful thinking, and the second item, while notable and anomalous, doesn't prove that he's alive. The third item is an assumption.

Your desire to pursue truth and inherent distrust of mainstream news is admirable. However, your attitude that anything you can't put your hands on and verify for yourself is, in my opinion, taking things a little too far. The fact of the matter is that neither you, nor I, nor anyone can verify for ourselves literally everything. None of us have the time or energy for that, and there are many things still classified or otherwise hidden from us. So then we must do the next best thing; take everything and weigh the available evidence for and against it. And yes, sometimes that does require relying on sources that can't be directly verified. But as long as the evidence is followed to its conclusion, and you update your thinking to incorporate new evidence when it surfaces, you won't be led astray.

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FlySciFiGuy 9 points ago +9 / -0

We can't know for sure

Yes, we can, it's a matter of whether you trust Q or not. Either his statements are accurate or they are not, you can't pick and choose which ones you like and justify it by "disinfo is necessary".

If JFK Jr. is alive, and the Q team didn't want to reveal this information, then they simply wouldn't comment on it, or would simply continue to let MSM insist that Jr. is dead. Q didn't have to reply to the people talking about Jr., but he did, and he did so for a reason. In that same post he also confirmed that the earth is not flat; is that disinfo too?

While it is notable that Jr. is not buried with the rest of his family, at the end of the day it is simply a notable. A quick google search indicates he was cremated and buried at sea, and the simplest explanation, while not the most exciting, is that it's how he wanted to be buried. Not being buried with the rest of the family, on its own, is insufficient evidence that he's alive. If JFK Jr. makes a public appearance, or government docs indicating his survival are declassified, then that would be more compelling evidence.

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

If Q makes a definitive statement, and you try to say Q is lying because “disinfo is necessary”, then what’s to stop someone else from using that exact line of reasoning to discredit everything else Q said as disinfo?

Is his prediction of Hillary’s arrest disinfo? How about “Trust Kansas”? How about “the midterms are safe”?

Either what Q said is accurate, or it’s not. You can’t pick and choose what you want to be right and justify it ad hoc.

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FlySciFiGuy 13 points ago +15 / -2

Q explicitly stated that JFK Jr is dead and that the earth is round because a small section of people on 4chan just wouldn’t let that stuff go. Unfortunately, people still peddle this nonsense and the MSM is more than happy to use it to discredit “Qanon”. Which is of course why they coined the term “Qanon” in the first place.

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FlySciFiGuy 11 points ago +12 / -1

The theories surrounding NESARA have zero evidence. Everyone who promotes this stuff also promotes some combination of QFS, Med Beds, New Age spiritualism/Gnosticism, and Flat Earth. Plus they also tend to either run pyramid schemes or associate with people who do.

These grifters are all over Telegram and Rumble, and are trivially easy to spot for anyone who has a shred of discernment.

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

So let me get this straight:

People in the 1960’s predict that the global population in circa 2010 will be 7 billion people. This prediction comes to pass. You assert that everyone is fudging their numbers because you think it’s impossible for such a prediction to be made. I explain the math behind such predictions, and your response is that the math doesn’t correspond to reality, despite the fact that the original prediction is, as far as we know, accurate.

So population modeling is inaccurate because population statistics are being fudged, and the statistics must be fudged because the modeling must be inaccurate. This is circular reasoning.

Again, I agree that some countries, particularly China, are probably fudging their population stats. However, if you’re going to assert that the global population numbers are off by, for example, 10% or more, then you’re obligated to provide more evidence for this than “it can’t be that many people because it matches predictions from 50+ years ago; there’s no way they could predict that”.

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FlySciFiGuy 9 points ago +9 / -0

“But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭8‬-‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” ‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭35‬, ‭37‬-‭40‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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FlySciFiGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed that China is fudging their numbers and are the worst offender.

Decades of one child policies, combined with lack of sanitation and safety standards, not to mention communism’s tendency to murder and starve its people, does not add up to 1 billion+ people.

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

By my calculations 7 billion people could fit in Texas, and each person would have 1,000 square feet, about the size of a two bedroom apartment where I’m from.

Texas has 0.136% of Earth’s total land area.

Your observation of vast stretches of uninhabited (or at least not urbanized) land says more about the vastness of earth than the alleged inaccuracy of population data.

The earth has more than enough room for 7 billion people, could probably support several times this number if it weren’t for corrupt governments.

TL;DR: the Earth is a lot bigger than a lot of people think. It’s hard to contextualize numbers on this scale.

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FlySciFiGuy -1 points ago +1 / -2

“So when did authors start predicting trends that perfectly?”

Population growth is trivially easy to model, basic population growth equations are taught in high school and college math (Calc and pre Calc). Once you get to differential equations you can even accurately model the effects of limited resources and predation, and accurately predict the effects for years.

While I agree that some countries like China are probably fudging their numbers, the total global population figure is probably pretty close to reality. Just because people in the 60s could predict it doesn’t mean it’s fake; it’s just math.

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FlySciFiGuy 4 points ago +5 / -1

Why do so many in this community keep falling for this schtick?

“I have an anonymous source, and very soon we’ll have bombshell info for you”

The moment they start talking about anonymous sources is the moment you can confidently and safely tune them out. Complete shills, the lot of them.

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FlySciFiGuy 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’m not following what the implication is supposed to be here. Is he saying that all celebrities had to kill someone to get their fame? If so, who?

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FlySciFiGuy 7 points ago +7 / -0

“Sheriffs are sworn to the constitution”

So is every Senator, Representative, and the pResident. Look how well that’s going.

Swearing oaths doesn’t mean jack anymore.

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FlySciFiGuy 3 points ago +3 / -0

I actually just watched a Pro Desantis, anti Trump post get removed from PDW. Happened in the last hour.

I think the majority of what you’re seeing is bots. PDW is still pro Trump, despite their frustration with the midterms.

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FlySciFiGuy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sorry, can’t use the military. Apparently we have to placate the normies and their twisted concept of “muh democracy”

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

I faithfully voted in 2018, 2020, and 2022; Republican all the way down each time. Let’s take a look at what happened after each election:

2018: we got shellacked hard. Lost the House and the majority of governors. Lots of fraud for sure but also a lot of effective anti Trump propaganda keeping normies asleep.

2020: the most blatant steal by far. We lost the presidency and our Senate majority, and failed to take back the House. Trump accurately claims massive election fraud, claims that he caught them all, but lets them get away with it anyway. (This is when he should have initiated the storm and arrested everyone. Screw the normies and their optics)

2022: If we’re extremely lucky we might get the slimmest of majorities in both houses. Plus, we lost some races that should have been no brainers (like Oz, who conceded like the coward he is). Plus, not every Republican is MAGA, so actually the Uniparty still has a majority in both houses as they always do, and MAGA is once again relegated to a minority. The first thing our new Congress will do in 2023 will be to send another $100 billion to Ukraine. We were promised a Red Wave and got a Red Trickle, despite the highest Republican turnout in history. Our best efforts still aren’t enough to counteract the steal. As with 2020, massive fraud is caught, but most on this board are coping by saying it’s another sting like 2020.

Which leads me to this simple question: what’s the point of having multiple sting ops unless you’re going to actually make an arrest? Why should we continue to lose (or Pryhhicly win) elections and delude ourselves into thinking we’re secretly winning?

IF Trump initiates the storm before 2024 and arrests the people behind our stolen elections, then things will actually turn out ok. If Trump does business as usual for the next 2 years and treats 2024 like 2022, his base is going to be completely demoralized and have little reason to care. Continuing to tolerate election fraud despite having all the evidence to make arrests is not a winning strategy.

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FlySciFiGuy 0 points ago +1 / -1

It means I would be done engaging with GAW and TS and done letting Q and Q decoders build my hopes up only to dash them back down into pieces. I’d just turn off Scored and TS and accept whatever comes next. I will not support Desantis for president until after Trump has had his second term (Desantis is doing just fine in Florida and has no reason to leave). I will not get into the cattle cars, I would rather die and take some communist bastards with me. I will just live my life until the inevitable economic collapse or civil war, and hope I die a quick death fighting than a long slow death starving/freezing.

None of that, however, will happen if the storm is initiated relatively soon. I’ll give the white hats at least through the end of Q1 2023, Q2 if I’m feeling generous. I don’t see our economy or society surviving much longer after that if nothing changes from the status quo. Our economy is collapsing. Half the people on PDW are chomping at the bit for civil war or secession. Trump always says “the best is yet to come”, and I don’t see that happening with economic collapse or civil war. Obviously Trump knows these risks, and I trust that he has a plan to mitigate these risks, but these risks continue to grow the longer he waits, and eventually they will spiral out of his or anyone’s control.

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

“Look to Twitter, exactly this: ‘My fellow Americans, the storm is upon us…’”

That has nothing to do with Jan 6. That wasn’t supposed to be a storm, Trump said to protest peacefully. Jan 6 was a bunch of Ukrainian Nazis and US Feds going undercover and stirring up trouble, with unsuspecting MAGA supporters being drawn in to the mess.

THE storm is when Trump declassifies everything regarding Russiagate, the 2020 steal, and now the 2022 steal, plus all the pedophilia and child trafficking the sick bastards in govt and Hollywood have been engaged in for years. Declass followed by military arrests and tribunals.

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you’re conferring with a medium then you’re dealing either with a charlatan or someone under demonic influence. Hate to break it to you, but that’s how it is. Anyone claiming to be a medium, a prophet, or an apostle is simply not trustworthy.

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FlySciFiGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

It wasn’t just the MSM who hyped up a Red Wave. Trump and all of his associates on TS (Kash, Flynn, etc) repeatedly predicted a Red Wave too.

Did we get a Red Wave? Yes

Did the Uniparty successfully build a flood wall out of mail in ballots and election fraud? Also yes

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

He’s not entirely wrong. I disagree with his diagnosis that Trump and the white hats are doing nothing and/or got beaten by Big Pharma. However, even if Trump came back tomorrow, the economic and societal damage done by the elites would take years, if not decades, to undo and recover from. We’re basically already in a global depression, and the last time that happened it took a decade and a war to get out of.

And Trump should have initiated the storm back during the 2020 steal. The fact that he held off, and is apparently holding off again after the 2022 steal, is incredibly demoralizing. Add on another 2 years of Biden running the show, and I don’t think Trump can reasonably expect anyone to come out and vote for him in 2024. Something needs to happen before then. Something big.

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