I'm with you...it is quite distasteful being forced to fight this way. It will take all of us together fighting in our own ways to win this war.
Note that in this particular circumstance I just asked the IRS to return money already paid, and they could have said no and forced me to sue them. But they did not. This is a huge tell that they know my reason for requesting the refund was Constitutionally and legally correct.
I even tested them by intentionally not filing a "required" form to see if they squawked about that or my W-2 correction, and they only protested about the missing form...rofl.
I think it's a dangerous game tho. They are doubling the IRS workforce specifically to hammer down any little nails that stick out. I dont think there are enough tax protestors to expect to go unnoticed or unchallenged on stuff like this. With 200,000 people working full time to legally attack the little guy, remember... the process is the punishment. If they so choose they can come after you for years over 1 tax return. And they can start a whole new case every year you do something they dont like, even if you have sound legal recourse. They make an example out of people like this to make sure the masses never get inspired to stop paying.
Each person has to decide whether they are prepared to fight off any IRS attacks based on their specific situation. It appears to me that doing this particular approach would send a strong signal to the IRS that you might know some Constitutional Law, and that they might want to be cautious dealing with you.
At this point, after beating the IRS 4 times, the tax boards of California and Pennsylvania multiple times, I welcome any future IRS battles to add more enemy heads to my victory collection (metaphorically, of course); and hopefully that is one less battle, my fellow anons have to fight for themselves.
Yeah idk i dont like lawfare or political subterfuge. I only know how to fight one way and it's physical. Hopefully they never push me that far
I'm with you...it is quite distasteful being forced to fight this way. It will take all of us together fighting in our own ways to win this war.
Note that in this particular circumstance I just asked the IRS to return money already paid, and they could have said no and forced me to sue them. But they did not. This is a huge tell that they know my reason for requesting the refund was Constitutionally and legally correct.
I even tested them by intentionally not filing a "required" form to see if they squawked about that or my W-2 correction, and they only protested about the missing form...rofl.
I think it's a dangerous game tho. They are doubling the IRS workforce specifically to hammer down any little nails that stick out. I dont think there are enough tax protestors to expect to go unnoticed or unchallenged on stuff like this. With 200,000 people working full time to legally attack the little guy, remember... the process is the punishment. If they so choose they can come after you for years over 1 tax return. And they can start a whole new case every year you do something they dont like, even if you have sound legal recourse. They make an example out of people like this to make sure the masses never get inspired to stop paying.
All excellent points and very good risk analysis.
Each person has to decide whether they are prepared to fight off any IRS attacks based on their specific situation. It appears to me that doing this particular approach would send a strong signal to the IRS that you might know some Constitutional Law, and that they might want to be cautious dealing with you.
At this point, after beating the IRS 4 times, the tax boards of California and Pennsylvania multiple times, I welcome any future IRS battles to add more enemy heads to my victory collection (metaphorically, of course); and hopefully that is one less battle, my fellow anons have to fight for themselves.
Don't negotiate with your enemies, destroy them.