This company does not reward me for my hard work, there are no bonuses or any room for growth, so why should I kill myself for 12.50 an hour? With no insurance? Theyll let you burn yourself out then just hire somebody else, rinse and repeat.
My co-worker: "I've been here 7 years and so I deserve a pay rise. I do everything here and this business would fail without me. The owner doesn't value his employees."
Reality: Co-worker hasn't turned up on time once since I started here nearly a year ago, anywhere from 5 minutes to 3 hours late, regularly calls in "sick" at least once a week, spends most of the day on his phone, complains how much he hates the job, complains he never has enough money.
Me: Always turn up on time, work hard the entire shift, improving productivity by automating time consuming tasks, good attitude, customers love me and praise me to the business owner, love my job.
Business owner to me: "Thank you for being so reliable. I'm going to give you a pay rise making you the highest paid staff member, even above the manager. Also, here's a key to the business because you are so trustworthy and reliable... even the damn manager can't be bothered to turn up on time most days so it's comforting that you'll be here to open the business. I'm thinking of making you manager. I need to get rid of the other Staff and hire more people like you... do you know any others with the same work ethic as you have?"
Conclusion: Many people who think they are hard workers really aren't. Good business owners/managers reward good/hard work. Good workers are rewarded quietly so as not to piss off the others. If you aren't being rewarded, you likely aren't actually one of the good workers. There are some workplaces that are the exception to this, but in my experience most places reward actual good workers.
I have spent the better part of my career returning companies to sanity after boomers ruined them.
A lot of boomers who think they are all that, arent. A lot of bosses that think they are great are actually terrible.
A large percentage of people are bad at areas outside of a few specific skills - and this is across all jobs and age cohorts.
There are a billion reasons for this. The young today act as immature as you did at their age, but at their age you had the backstop of family, most gen z'rs have come from broken homes and if they cant pay their own rent, they cant crash at their parents to help them back on their feet. Millenials and Zs were both raised by broken AF generations - Gen X and Silents who were tortured by Boomers into Apathy and overzealous emotionalism, respectively.
On top of that, the businesses were turned into sociopathic vampires by those self same boomers, with some help by silents and gen-x's.
Do some comparisons of the world from 40+ years ago and now.
In the 70s, you could work at mcdonalds 40 to 60 hours a week and put yourself through college and go out for some reasonable fun.
Now, McDonalds wont give you more than 20 hours so they dont have to care about benefits, but also wont work with you to have three jobs just to afford a room in someone's house.
If you get in at a major company that isnt fast food, you have asshole bosses who dont give you a task to complete and resources to make you effective, they give you a robotic process and care more that you are 3 seconds slower than your coworker than the fact that you exist and have a brain that needs to be trained.
Time was, youd suffer in your 20s, learn the hard knocks, even learn from some minor failures all as part of being mentored. By your 30s, you had grown, were effective, and beginning to climb in your career.
Now, you get constantly berated. If you fail at a robotic process - even if you have a better process or even think you have a better process - you are punished for speaking out.
The war children 'just magically had it' and everyone else has sucked since. No ownership of what you let happen to the world, the business climate, the economy. Just rose colored glasses that ignore the fact that you were handed a golden platter and not only squandered it for yourselves, but let your governments fuck it for generations to come.
Boomers netted all of the rewards, though. They bought houses when they were 6 grotes and a handshake, then gleefully sold them to their kids for 750,000 and 12% while telling those same kids that they were trash because they couldnt afford things after paying 2500/month. 'Maybe buy fewer starbucks, man.'
While I did pick the low hanging fruit, I opine that there's more than inflation, here. There's systemic erosion of buying power, systemic transferring of useful jobs overseas, systemic globalization, systemic erosion of education, systemic destruction of family units, systemic undervalue of labor. ALL of this while boomers were - and are - in charge and telling everyone that they are trash and that they were going to make things better.
So they gave you a small raise and they're going to get rid of a few people, and then you'll be doing additional jobs for that small raise?
They're holding a promotion over your head, which isn't in writing and they said they'll hire more people, which I assure you they won't.
Boomers really are out of touch.
Unpopular take in a thread full of boomers but:
This company does not reward me for my hard work, there are no bonuses or any room for growth, so why should I kill myself for 12.50 an hour? With no insurance? Theyll let you burn yourself out then just hire somebody else, rinse and repeat.
My co-worker: "I've been here 7 years and so I deserve a pay rise. I do everything here and this business would fail without me. The owner doesn't value his employees."
Reality: Co-worker hasn't turned up on time once since I started here nearly a year ago, anywhere from 5 minutes to 3 hours late, regularly calls in "sick" at least once a week, spends most of the day on his phone, complains how much he hates the job, complains he never has enough money.
Me: Always turn up on time, work hard the entire shift, improving productivity by automating time consuming tasks, good attitude, customers love me and praise me to the business owner, love my job.
Business owner to me: "Thank you for being so reliable. I'm going to give you a pay rise making you the highest paid staff member, even above the manager. Also, here's a key to the business because you are so trustworthy and reliable... even the damn manager can't be bothered to turn up on time most days so it's comforting that you'll be here to open the business. I'm thinking of making you manager. I need to get rid of the other Staff and hire more people like you... do you know any others with the same work ethic as you have?"
Conclusion: Many people who think they are hard workers really aren't. Good business owners/managers reward good/hard work. Good workers are rewarded quietly so as not to piss off the others. If you aren't being rewarded, you likely aren't actually one of the good workers. There are some workplaces that are the exception to this, but in my experience most places reward actual good workers.
I have spent the better part of my career returning companies to sanity after boomers ruined them.
A lot of boomers who think they are all that, arent. A lot of bosses that think they are great are actually terrible.
A large percentage of people are bad at areas outside of a few specific skills - and this is across all jobs and age cohorts.
There are a billion reasons for this. The young today act as immature as you did at their age, but at their age you had the backstop of family, most gen z'rs have come from broken homes and if they cant pay their own rent, they cant crash at their parents to help them back on their feet. Millenials and Zs were both raised by broken AF generations - Gen X and Silents who were tortured by Boomers into Apathy and overzealous emotionalism, respectively.
On top of that, the businesses were turned into sociopathic vampires by those self same boomers, with some help by silents and gen-x's.
Do some comparisons of the world from 40+ years ago and now.
In the 70s, you could work at mcdonalds 40 to 60 hours a week and put yourself through college and go out for some reasonable fun.
Now, McDonalds wont give you more than 20 hours so they dont have to care about benefits, but also wont work with you to have three jobs just to afford a room in someone's house.
If you get in at a major company that isnt fast food, you have asshole bosses who dont give you a task to complete and resources to make you effective, they give you a robotic process and care more that you are 3 seconds slower than your coworker than the fact that you exist and have a brain that needs to be trained.
Time was, youd suffer in your 20s, learn the hard knocks, even learn from some minor failures all as part of being mentored. By your 30s, you had grown, were effective, and beginning to climb in your career.
Now, you get constantly berated. If you fail at a robotic process - even if you have a better process or even think you have a better process - you are punished for speaking out.
The war children 'just magically had it' and everyone else has sucked since. No ownership of what you let happen to the world, the business climate, the economy. Just rose colored glasses that ignore the fact that you were handed a golden platter and not only squandered it for yourselves, but let your governments fuck it for generations to come.
This entire comment is about inflation. A bit unfair to lay it all on boomers.
Boomers netted all of the rewards, though. They bought houses when they were 6 grotes and a handshake, then gleefully sold them to their kids for 750,000 and 12% while telling those same kids that they were trash because they couldnt afford things after paying 2500/month. 'Maybe buy fewer starbucks, man.'
While I did pick the low hanging fruit, I opine that there's more than inflation, here. There's systemic erosion of buying power, systemic transferring of useful jobs overseas, systemic globalization, systemic erosion of education, systemic destruction of family units, systemic undervalue of labor. ALL of this while boomers were - and are - in charge and telling everyone that they are trash and that they were going to make things better.
Now go consult for some companies that are not dumpster fires or PE pump and dumps and get back with us.
Honest question: which companies would those be?
So they gave you a small raise and they're going to get rid of a few people, and then you'll be doing additional jobs for that small raise? They're holding a promotion over your head, which isn't in writing and they said they'll hire more people, which I assure you they won't. Boomers really are out of touch.
It wasn't small.
Only if they can find better workers.
I work from the moment I get there until the moment that I leave. It doesn't matter what tasks I do, I'm always working, as a worker should.
No, I already do management duties. I don't need the title, I'm already being paid more than the manager.
Not a boomer, I'm 45.