Irish Catholics spread exorcism salt after Bidens visit - link in the comments
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possibly related: they changed the exorcism rite after Vatican 2, potentially making it inefffective
It was ineffective from the start. Catholicism itself is a sham that isn't rooted in true Christianity.
1.3 billion members, oldest of the Christian churches, laid the foundations of Western civilization, directly responsible for the first composition of the Bible.
Yeah, glad you're here, being so much smarter than everyone else.
When you have to insult because you have no solid argument to make lol.
We all know that an appeal to popularity as a form of validation of truth is a great way to reason. Definitely hasn't misled anyone in the past. There's billions of people who trusted that their governments operated in their best interests throughout history, how did that turn out for them? Also, there's supposedly over 2 billion Muslims in the world, so does that make their worldview more sound than Catholicism?
Catholicism being the first Christian church is also a perfect example of the many lies of that religion. Constantine didn't legalize Christianity in the Roman empire till 313 AD. Did the original churches and congregations formed by the many disciples of Jesus not count? And please don't try to pass on the bull they feed you about Peter being the first pope.
There's a reason the Vatican is tied in with the Cabal, and no this is not a brand new occurrence. The Catholic church fundamentally is not rooted in scripture. Hell it's members weren't even encouraged to read scripture for themselves until the 1940's. The very idea of having a Pope and them acting as the Vicar of Christ is already pure blasphemy alone. The whole hierarchical nature is rotten to its core and isn't rooted anywhere in actual scripture. Purgatory, the practice of confession to a priest, even the practice of priesthood itself. All lacking biblical roots. The priesthood and the mandatory act of forbidding marriage is tied to pagan religions and not anything of Jesus.
What about the boy raping problem that has long plagued the Catholic church and the many cover-ups as a result? The Vatican is heavily involved in child trafficking. What about the Catholic church acting as the proto-Smithsonian and hoarding historical artifacts from all over the globe concealing this information from the people? Also, engaging in the act of book burning and destroying important historical information such as they did with the natives in the new world. What about the act of praying to the many different Saints? This was deliberately done to make the transition from the Roman polytheistic religion to Christianity more palatable.
I could go on and on and on about the atrocities of this dark religion and how so little of its practices are rooted in actual Christianity. It is on par with or almost as bad as the Morman cult. It could even arguably be worse because of how much power it has consolidated and the amount of damage it has caused globally. Just because we grow up with something or align ourselves spiritually with something doesn't make it right. The Great Awakening is more than just a political movement. To truly awaken the masses have to question their very own beliefs that they've held as sacred their entire lives. Jesus said the path is narrow my friend. 1.9 billion is quite wide if you ask me.
The early Church was just a united entity, which eventually had splits to orthodox and Catholic, and from Catholic the protestants. So Catholics and orthodox trace back to the beginning basically, with protestants seeming to break off from Catholics more clearly.
I think most are with this claim? It's just the orthodox believe the title of pope to be more honorary?
I think Catholics, orthodox, and protestants have all been affected by this kind of thing. So I don't see this as specifically something that stands out against Catholicism.
Catholics have a more centralized institution, so some of us think they tried to elect a non-Catholic "pope" to take it over.
Orthodox have multiple patriarchs, I've seen one kind of compromising "agreement" I wouldn't expect either side to agree with:
https://infogalactic.com/info/Balamand_declaration
Protestants seem to lack hierarchy a bit, so there's all kinds of freedoms for "megachurches" or leftwing "churches" to be created and make protestantism look "non-Christian".
I'm not aware of what you're referring to, although the Scripture was originally passed by oral tradition and literacy wasn't universal so it took some time for there to be a codified Scripture and for the common person to be able to read it, and there were concerns the Scripture would be misread or mistranslated so reading Scripture may not have been encouraged for the common person.
Typically even secular entities like companies or governments have a singular leader, whether it is a CEO or the POTUS. So it would make sense for the Church to have a singular leader, with Christ as the founder. Such entities also have hierarchies, like with government having local, state, and federal levels of hierarchy.
To the contrary, I find protestantism's practice to be ahistorical. Both Catholic and orthodox observe to some extent what is mentioned, of having clergy and confession to a priest. A sinner is however encouraged to pray acts of contrition and to obtain perfect contrition for sin before God outside the confessional (but with the intent of confessing when possible).
For a millennium, I think people were allowed to marry and then become clergy. St. Paul is the example in the Bible that remained celibate for his whole life and wrote that such a state is good because it allows a person to focus entirely on God rather than have to attend to worldly issues. It's simple to follow this line of reasoning. The person who is married is typically working a secular job to provide for a family. The unmarried priest might be able to instead devote more time to prayer that would be otherwise devoted to work, or to devote time to religious works that might not generate necessary income for a family. So there is a practical and Biblical basis for this practice, as well as there being other benefits. Celibates are also able to perhaps observe more rigorous penitential fasts.
There are a few things to be said here, the first of which is that I don't think the numbers are statistically significant compared to other groups, who also have a certain percentage of abusers. Another point is that abusers decided to become clergy to make Christianity look bad. Some of us do think the would-be hierarchy has been taken over though and that the "shuffling around" of "clergy", rather than to send them to the government for secular punishment, has been another attack on Christianity.
Perhaps wasn't a good practice, I don't know about this one, but probably we're in agreement this isn't an issue necessary to resolve for people to be good Christians.
Would a comparable situation today be that of certain books that promote witchcraft or transgenderism to children? Such books were judged to be of no value back then, since they promoted things harmful to souls, and so were destroyed. Do you think they should have archived the books instead? They didn't want to promote the false ideas, which they thought might harm souls.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Intercession_of_saints
There was this concept of "baptizing" pagan practices, or removing sufficiently objectionable content and of doing something similar but in a "Christian" way. For example consider this about the feast of "Candlemas":
https://infogalactic.com/info/Presentation_of_Jesus_at_the_Temple
This has been done multiple times with a bunch of things, so it's not that they were trying to trick Christians in to observing pagan practices, but to transform pagan practices into Christian ones.
I guess feel free to continue to ask questions about Catholicism if there's some continued questions you have. (Crusades? Inquisition? Indulgences?)