This is the post I was referring to in my other post (https://greatawakening.win/p/16an0sjwbZ/update-dad-is-out-of-nursing-hom/) and because my father had a hard time breathing due to his UTI, they put him on oxygen tanks and all.
He now have an oxygen homefill and oxygen concentrator at home. He isn't too happy with it because he had a stroke back in the early 2000's and lost about 80% mobility in his left side. With him having a breathing tube up his nose and having to go to the bathroom or around his home, he have to be careful with the tubing that's connected to the concentrator. He's worried that he may trip and fall down because the tubing would get tangled with his walker, his body or his legs.
They diagnosed him with COPD a few years ago because Dad was around people who smoked heavily, especially my mom. He is not a smoker at all but apparently he contracted COPD because of his constant exposure to smoking.
I've been doing some research of my own on whether ivermectin can help people with COPD and I remember from my previous readings on here, some people mentioned that ivermectin cured their COPD (it was in the comment section, not as a post, which is why I couldn't find info on this via GAW search). I'm not having much luck, even with Presearch because they keep giving me links to articles shaming ivermectin, especially when a person has COVID symptoms. I don't think I've rolled my eyes over a million times ever in my life time in one day alone, before doing this research.
I also came across one of the older posts about someone having chronic bronchitis (https://greatawakening.win/p/16aA9409QY/i-have-had-chronic-bronchitis-my/c/) and how ivermectin helped that person with their ailment, going through the most recent winter without chronic bronchitis for the first time. Chronic Bronchitis is a form of COPD, per that post and that's what got me wondering if using ivermectin to treat COPD itself, will ivermectin reduce the severity or eradicate it completely?
I also came across this research paper on the use of ivermectin to treat Pulmonary Strongyloidiasis in a patient with COPD. It is similar to COPD in many ways, which is why doctors often confuse the two when diagnosing a patient for COPD.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5077736/
In that article, it said that they tried several medications to treat strongyloidiasis but ultimately found that oral ivermectin is the best medication to use along with antibiotics like Ciprofloxacin, which is usually used to treat UTI.
With that said, I'd like to treat my father with Ivermectin because not only does he have COPD or maybe strongyloidiasis (?), he also have Rheumatoid Arthritis (from his stroke) and I believe that's also something ivermectin can treat. He also have hypertension and I remember a lot of people were commenting that it also treated their hypertension, to the point where they don't have to rely on their blood pressure medication anymore.
At this point, I've been seeing that ivermectin is being touted as a "wonder drug" that still continues to surprise the medical world with what ivermectin can do to someone, almost as if it's a panacea. This is why I want to try this on my father but I'm somewhat hesitant until I see some feedback from people with personal experience, especially ones with COPD.
I know everyone on here isn't a doctor or in the medical field, but I'm asking those with first hand experience with ivermectin, especially the ones who have/had COPD, would this be something I should have my father take? I also am not sure what the frequency should be and how many mg's my father should take. I've been seeing in the comment section, people were taking 12 mg once a day for like 5 days, 2 weeks, 1 month, 10 months etc.
I'm also wondering about the side effects because the articles that spoke negatively about ivermectin, were listing a lot of side effects such as diarrhea (which is expected as one would be expelling parasites from their body via bowel movement), tremors/shaking, headaches, blurry eyes, etc. From the articles I've read that spoke positively about ivermectin, made zero mentions of any side effects. Not sure if leaving the side effects out was intended or there were actually none? Like I mentioned, my father is old, suffered a stroke and have a hard time moving around so I don't want him to experience any drastic side effects then he'd think ivermectin isn't working and quit halfway.
I have the pill form here so I plan on using that to treat my father. Is ivermectin fine by itself or should it be taken with something else like Zinc or Ciprofloxacin? My father was already treated for UTI and I'm assuming they gave him antibiotics for UTI, so should he continue with antibiotics or will ivermectin suffice? AllDayChemist has Cipro but it comes in both 250mg and 500mg so I have no idea which one to get along with the frequency. Not only that but it may be a month or two before I get the product. I've ordered from AllDayChemist before as that's where I got my ivermectin pills from. It took about a month and half for the pills to arrive, which is why I'm guessing it would be the same for Cipro. I'd like to treat my father ASAP but I think I can wait a month or two for Cipro if it's needed.
So to sum this up: my father has COPD, Rheumatoid Arthritis and hypertension, currently using a big ass oxygen concentrator that is giving him trouble getting around the house due to the tubing, should ivermectin be something my father take to treat for COPD-like symptoms? Any other suggestions like taking it with Zinc? Ciprofloxacin? Substitute ivermectin with Fenbendazole (for which I also have on hand; 222mg) or follow this "cocktail recipe" someone posted on here: Ivermectin, Fenbendazole, Vitamin C and Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate)?
OK. Correct, not a doctor but 22 yrs in home health and hospice, but mostly, I am a person who grew up observing parents who did NOT worship doctors and western med so I have researched alternatives my whole life, plus my daughter has her degree in Holistic Nutrition. We have been using Ivermectin horse paste for 3 years. We are unvaccinated. Here is what I know so far, based upon being a guinea pig myself for all: Ivermectin kept us free from "covid symptoms" though I did aquire a stubborn brochial congestion (but keep reading). Ivermectin even knocked out a stomach flu type thing in 1 day. Ivermectin on an empty stomach, no nausea. Must take zinc as well but NEVER on an empty stomach in fact take with your biggest meal. And A 5 mg melatonin at bedtime. NAC (triple the recommended dose) plus 4-6000units of vitamin C (the kind derived from citrus not from potatoes) per day, 15000 iu D3, gets rid of what feels like chronic bronchial or lung congestion you think you will be stuck with the rest of your life (as I thought re my own) I followed that protocol for three months and got rid of a debilitating congestion I had for 1.5 years! Cannot stress enough the importance of the D3 and C especially. Get your dad off of sugar and almost all white flour products. He needs to not be dinking around with blood sugar levels. If he eats more meat and animal fat and gets off the sugar and bread, he can lower his hypertension and probably lose weight too if needed, which also helps the hypertension. If your dad is taking statins you have got to control his diet the same way and get him off the statins as they really ruin a person's life and make it not worth living. The Rheumatoid arthritis and any bone/joint pain responds very very well to SAM-e. Some people need no other med after the SAM-e kicks in.
Remember to push the water! Dehydration is so common. A small pinch of salt to a big glass of water, and pure water, not tap. The blood and the lungs, everything, need more water! I would try the prods for the congestion, the no sugar little bread lots of fatty meats, real butter, plenty of water, and the SAM-e. These are things to help him be more comfortable. Ivermectin, body weight dose, once a day for 5 days. I would not expect gut problems from that. You can do the iver again in a month. I do not know that your dad needs antibiotics and it is better if he does not. Messes up the gut so much. If he had antibiotics though, look on iherb.com for probiotics derived from soil bacteria. Important. He needs some. Most people do. Everyone just provides their opinion based upon their own history or research, but there is nothing I have said that can cause harm, and changing the diet and adding the other things, will not harm. Think of the supplements as a 3 month experiment. The less prescriptions your dad is on, the better. And if his congestion improves that will be so great to not need the oxygen 24/7. Good luck, fren.
You have much more credentials than I have...but I do have over 50 years of treating myself and my family alternatively...and am usually pretty self-sufficient. My family have all been guinea pigs too...so I completely understand that comment.
Your information is very accurate and spot on...I concur with everything. However, concerning the Vitamin D...you really must take vitamin K with the D as that transfers the calcium into the bone where it belongs. I take 10,000IU of D3 along with a Super K from Life Extension and went from about 25ng/mL to 60ng/mL and the improvement in my health is amazing. I just encourage people to have their blood tested so they know where they are at and where they need to go.
I would also suggest that he get on probiotics permanently because gut health is really what determines how well he is digesting his food. Even digestive enzymes would help.
The NAC needs to be taken on an empty stomach either 1/2 an hour before you eat anything in the morning or 2 hours after you have eaten before bed.
I like Sam-e quite a lot...I have taken it mainly for depression...but I think they will find that adequately raising the Vitamin D level will have a big impact on arthritis.
Also, zinc needs to be coupled with quercetin so that the zinc can get inside the cell wall to prevent replication of the virus. A doctor explained that zinc is the bullet and quercetin is the gun. If a person has thyroid issues and can't take zinc...green tea works in the same way.
Everything else looks spot on and I agree to try to get off the drugs...statins are very bad for you. Anyway...thanks for all your good informations and how lucky you are to have a daughter with a degree in Holistic Medicine....God bless you and yours.
What is SAM-e?
SAMe is a chemical compound found naturally in the body that may have antidepressant and painkilling properties. Evidence suggests that SAMe is effective in reducing functional limitations and, to a lesser extent, pain in osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia, body tenderness and depressive symptoms.1 The recent American College of Rheumatology (ACR) guidelines for treating osteoarthritis include dietary supplements such as glucosamine sulfate, chondroitin sulfate and antioxidants as therapies under investigation.0
https://www.versusarthritis.org/about-arthritis/complementary-and-alternative-treatments/types-of-complementary-treatments/same/
Thank you so much for this.
My Pleasure Fren.
OK this is a lot to absorb but excellent information!
Sorry for not replying back as soon as you made your comment. We had several black outs along with my desktop computer not turning on after the blackouts. Now my computer is back up and running and everything has calmed down.
I have some questions for you:
You mentioned that you've been doing the horse paste treatment and then said my father should be doing ivermectin once a day for 5 days, going by his body weight. I have the pill form, not the paste, so should I still do it by his body weight? If not then 12 mg a day is ideal?
If I have to do it by his body weight, that's one of the few issues I have as I still don't understand how to do it correctly. I'm seeing 0.2 mg/kg, 0.3, 0.4 and 0.6 and all of them have different numbers, like here, last section on page: (https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-prevent-protect/). Which one should I go by? My father's weight is around 240 so if I do it 0.2 mg/kg, I should be giving my father 21 mg of Ivermectin, which means 3 1/2 tablets as I have the 6 mg, not the 3 or 12 mg ones?
I don't think my father is on any statins. Are they for cholesterol right? If so, then he's not on any statins.
You mentioned that he can take ivermectin along with zinc, but said that ivermectin must be taken on an empty stomach (either 1 hour before or 1 hour after a meal) but you also said that he should take zinc on a full stomach. So with that said, he should be taking ivermectin first on an empty stomach, then take zinc after his meal?
All of the vitamins you listed, does he have to take them all at the same time he's taking ivermectin or after he's done with the 5 day regimen?
You said you had a bronchial congestion, are you saying it was basically COPD, but a mild version, or are you saying that could have led to COPD but you prevented that? I'm sorry about this one but I'm still learning about COPD and what it is. My father has COPD for like 10 years now but it seems to have gotten worse recently due to him having UTI and it caused him to have trouble breathing, which is why they put him on a oxygen tank.
I believe that's all I have so thank you very much for the information as that is a huge help for me!
I will go ahead and answer your question on Ivermectin...there are charts that show dosages but I don't have one handy...but I have basic dosages in my head and I will share what I know. At 0.2 mg/kg a 200 # person would need 18 mg. a day of ivermectin. I use the horse paste and it is so easy to calculate because they have a plunger that is marked. So basically your dad should probably take two 12 mg. tablets a day. It is a little bit over but Ivermectin is very easy to take and that little bit extra won't hurt. The higher amounts of Ivermectin are for more intense treatment and can be used daily short term...according to FLCCC protocols. The lowest dose is really just the prophylactic maintenance dose given
once a week or every other week or once a month. I currently take Ivermectin once a week at the lowest dose...unless I am sick...then I do it daily for a few days. I take Ivermectin at night before bed on an empty stomach.
Now as far as zinc...take zinc with your main vitamins with your first meal. BUT you have to take quercetin (or green tea) with zinc. Zinc will stop replication of a virus in the cell...but it needs something to get it into the cell. Picture that zinc is the bullet and quercetin is the gun. The brand of zinc I like is Now Opti-zinc because it contains copper, which you need to take with higher dosages of zinc. I am presently taking a Bio-Quercetin from Life Extension but I have used Now quercetin. If people have thyroid problems they may not be able to take quercetin...but green tea will do the same thing.
I can't answer to her congestion...but this will help with the other questions....
Could you expand on the advice to get off statins? The diet is already being worked on.