I had one of those little demonic cretins post a nasty little "attempt to frighten" response to a recent post. It really got me to thinking. These nut jobs project so much, they can't see the sky for the clouds. They honestly think we are planning all kinds of dumb and dastardly things against them; because that's all they do is plan it against us. They have no FAITH, therefore they can't comprehend what we are really doing. They just don't believe our founding fathers knew they'd come and that our system only requires the People to take back the power to right the ship. These poor atheists and agnostics have no idea the power we weild through prayer and they definitely can't see how it will destroy them. God is good. Prayers work. Justice will again become equal under the law and the nation by the People for the People will prevail. I'm absolutely positive our future will be wrought with challenges and setbacks, but we will win....our Forefathers and our Lord guarantee it.
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Fine but no need to lump agnostics in with atheists like that.
Atheists hold the laughably absurd position that they've searched the entire Universe and found no deity, therefore there is none. Declaring the "factuality" of that negative is ridiculous, and I ridicule them freely every chance I get.
Agnostics simply honestly admit they don't KNOW about the metaphysical, spiritual, or supernatural realm; or if it even makes sense to discuss something that has no concrete definition, like God. To many, "A being who exists outside the universe of everything that exists" doesn't actually make logical sense; they are a type of agnostic called "ignostic".
IMHO everyone who has ever lived has been agnostic; they didn't and don't actually KNOW whether a deity exists; they instead believe without having direct knowledge, which is called faith. If they had direct knowledge, faith would be unnecessary.
Like we have no "faith" in the existence of trees. We just look outside, and there they are. We have direct KNOWLEDGE about their existence, so there are no tree agnostics, no tree atheists, no tree faithful.
Agnostics and ignostics like me respect goodhearted religious folks and staunchly defend their right to practice their faith and spirituality in any way they see fit, as encoded in the First part of the First Amendment to our Constitution. Since we don't pretend to "know there is no deity" as the ridiculous atheists do, we keep an open mind. What if there is one? We never denied it, so He can't get too mad for our use of our God-given logic and reason in considering the topic. That would make Him irrational and unjust.
Faith is the next step of evolution, even when you don't believe it. I once was you, so no offense, just love.
Yes but that seems to say people who have faith in supernatural beings—who believe in things or entities without direct evidence—are more evolved than those who do not.
I would respectfully question that assessment. Maybe it is those who rigorously apply their God-given logic and critical thinking ability, use their God-given analytical intellect, and ask the hard questions about belief in something lacking any clear definition, who are the more evolved ones. I'm not declaring that they are such, merely stating the possibility, because again, I don't know.
Agnostics are people who understand there's a difference between faith and knowledge and are comfortable admitting there are some things our brains are simply not equipped to know in this life. Maybe there is another type of life after this one, wherein we will know such things. Maybe not. It is unknown. :)
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i have a ton of respect for agnostics, especially in contrast to atheists. but saying that you don't know and therefore noone else can either is also projection. the guys chained in the cave are certain that life is all shadows.
I didn't say I don't know and therefore no one else can. I don't know whether anyone else can. I suspect and surmise it based on observation but really can't know it.