Neither You or I Are A “person” https://www.craftylifestyle.co.uk/uploads/2/3/2/8/23282466/neither_you_or_i_are_a_person.pdf
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You and I are a natural person. Unfortunately, when it comes to the Leige-Lord (i.e. legal) system, the vast majority of "persons" in this system are artificial persons - otherwise known as corporations, trusts, partnerships, etc.
The etymology of the word comes from the Greek "Persona" however, which was defined as a character in a Greek stage play (comedy/tragedy). An "actor"!
It's also worth noting that we had a word for two or more called "people", but the legal system required the word "person" to maintain their subterfuge with "persons".
Not sure how this works in the US, but in Australia, UK etc (which makes me suspect also in the US, as the US constitution is essentially a codification of common law (the law of the land) that arose from British history), we are NOT natural persons, but living men and women.
Not familiar with the US dimensions of this. Possibly what you refer to as "natural persons" is the 'legal' (but not necessarily lawful) designation for a living human within the legal system, which indeed draws a distinction between a natural person and a legal person (corps, etc). Nonetheless, I think they are ALL still being controlled under the jurisdiction of maritime law.
From a common law perspective:
"Persons" are corporate entities, coming under the jurisdiction of maritime law, aka commercial law. When we are born and 'registered' with whatever corporation is operating disguised as govt or a govt body, a 'person' i.e. corporate entity is created, using our name.
It is that corporate entity that is affected and controlled via statute law, aka commercial law, derived from the Roman civil law.
But living men and women come under jurisdiction of the law of the land, common law.
When you interact with a govt agency, for example, which will be a registered corporation, you are interacting as that corporate entity created with the registration of your birth via the "birth certificate".
One key problem in the Western world today is that most folks are completely ignorant of this reality, and they live and function in a world where they identify with the corporate entity mimicking them, rather than as living men and women.
The trick is the authorities in the liege-lord system have to offer up a common definition in order to pull their legalese tricks. The judge will happily agree with you verbally that you are a natural person and then go right back to adjudicating the case of the strawman artificial person.
That's right. When you look up "person" in Black's Law Dictionary, it directs you to these two distinctions.
From a common law perspective, using your phrasing here, recall that there is nothing written down. This is the "common law" of old. As the word "person" is a commonly used word with a clear meaning to the populace, there is no harm in the word itself - it matters not. Everybody is in agreement, judge, jury, audience, etc. that a man/woman can also be called a "person" without any confusion of the matter.
That's correct. This might all be clearer stated as such. The liege-lord system is wholly and completely designed to operate exclusively with dead, fictional entities. As such, the living man/woman must be converted into one as well, the cestui que trust, transmitting utility, etc. via the strawman ALL CAPS NAME in order to interact with all the fake dead entities (corporations, governments, actors etc.). This is why the living man/woman must be RE-PRESENTED, as the liege-lord system cannot see/hear/interact with the PRESENTMENT of a living man/woman. Make sense?
This is technically correct. But walk into any court running today in the U.S. and commonwealth nations and the judge will happily tell you that this courtroom is indeed operating under the "common law", as it is 100% COMMON to the people today. See the trick?
Right, as said above, the dead cannot interact with the living.
Agreed. The liege-lord system is pure trickery and deception. You can only be one "thing" at a time. Thus, you surrender your man/womanhood as soon as you agree to be a person, resident, citizen, driver, taxpayer, defendant, litigant, affiant, registrant, petitioner, and on and on we go.
Are you a taxpayer or a man? You can't be both in the eyes of the liege lords!
It's nice to have your comments confirm mine. In my experience, this whole area is the rabbit warren to end all rabbit warrens, and there are many, many shades expressed through many different types of language and vantage points. For example, the "Liege-Lord" expression is new to me, but many of the other angles you express are not.
Oh, the trickery! Indeed.
I am in the very fortunate position of having some access (limited, but still) to someone who is probably one of, if not the most, erudite person in my country re: our constitution, the law and the practical application thereof in terms of fighting against the legal quagmire of trickery.
For me, one of the linchpins behind my thinking (the more I learn about and encounter this stuff) is the belief and awareness that this is all rooted in a spiritual reality that humanity has been afflicted with since the first days described in scripture.
Deceit, trickery, chicanery has ALWAYS been at the base of the enslavement of humanity. The legal quagmire is simply the manifestation of that on a tangible, social level.
In any case, your point by point response is much appreciated.
Well you're spot on. My research is very much rooted in the spiritual realm.
I write "liege lord" as the words liege, allegiance, & legal all come from the same Latin root. They're telling us who is in charge with the very name of their system!
I could go much deeper on the spiritual level with you. But suffice it to say, we all agreed to enter this realm of "duality" and, as such, somebody needed to play the role of the "bad guys" to make the good/bad part of it work. My theory is, there are two factions at work here; one are the "good guys" and one are the "bad guys" always hard at work trying to tip the balance in their respective direction. The freemasons are here to keep the balance, hence the black/white checkerboard symbology. If you weren't aware, they also completely run the liege lord system.
Now here's the key to it all -> Knowing who you are; within the lawful/legal realm is a start, but far more importantly, within the game of "life" itself. My understanding is, once you've mastered the legal realm, the judge will bow down and allow a real man/woman to proceed LAWFULLY, but only after you've been tested. Said judge will also admire you for figuring out the game afoot. But you must always remember, within the legal/liege-lord system, nothing matters as much as behaving honorably, not facts, not truth, not justice. It's all about honor! It's their system and that's the number one rule.
Once you've figured out you're a man/woman, and nothing else, you get to pass "go" and now take on the larger and far more important task of figuring out who you REALLY are. Because rest assured, not only are you not a person/citizen/resident/defendant/etc., but you're also not a man/woman either. You're something far greater than that!
So it's all about stepping up your game from playing "little ol' me"; weak, subordinate, able to be bossed around, subservient, dependent, etc. which is how we've all been brainwashed into behaving by the establishment institutions. You're not going to get anywhere with this legal/lawful stuff until you can see through the game and EMBODY the truth of the matter. It's because of this brainwashing that the liege-lord system must stay in place. It can't just be wiped out overnight. It serves its purpose for the unconscious, asleep, brainwashed sheeples. But if you're ready to step into self-governship, self-responsibility, and zero dependency on their system, that opportunity is available to you and they will "part the sea" and allow to crossover into your own sovereignty.
Most important of all, it's not about "what you know", but rather it's about "who you be" from moment to moment, whether you're in the midst of a legal/lawful affair or not. As my favorite guru likes to say; "it's a lifestyle".
Good luck with your continued studies my friend!