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Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
I think the problem is that you thought at the beginning of my comment I was talking about the same verse that you quoted. I wasn’t. I was talking about an earlier verse. Here’s the Greek analysis of Revelation 19:11. The English “white” is matched up with the Greek “λευκός” which is “leukos”. So the horse in the verse I quoted, Rev 6:8, is chloros, and then the horse in the verse you quoted, Rev 19:11, is leukos. They’re not the same horse.
No, I realize the pale(green) horse is not the same and not the same event as my favorite 1911.
The rider of the pale horse is not the Antichrist in an idealist interperpretation.
It can be, not everyone interprets it the same I'd guess.
For me, all the seals are representative of Jesus Christ being revealed or unveiled in the individual believer.
You'll notice the righteous beasts are very excited to show the four horsemen.......come and see!
The four living creatures(beasts) are specifically around the throne of God and the Lamb.
The throne is a spiritual realization of the power of God before the seals are broken as Christ comes conquering.
Why 1/4, I'm not sure, but all the work of sealing the sons of God is not yet accomplished. The trumpets prove that.
There's a lot of symbolism I don't yet get.
“yellowish pale” is only the secondary definition of chloros. The primary definition is just “green” with no mention of “pale”. For people to push “pale horse” instead of “green horse” or even “yellowish horse” seems like bad faith trying to confuse with the leukos horse, the white horse.
"This fourth horse is identified in the King James Bible as a pale horse. The translators had a difficult time with this word “pale” because its simple meaning is “green.” They couldn’t understand green in relation to death and hell, so they used the word “pale.” Other translators rendered it “ashy pale,” “sickly green,” “livid,” “color of ashes,” etc., in an effort to come up with something that would portray that which is sickly, hellish, or dead. One writer says, “The translation pale does not do justice to the horrible word used there! It is pallid or literally a greenish-yellow horse.” But, I ask — is that true?"
"Strong’s Concordance gives the meaning of the root word in Greek as simply “green.” The actual form of the word used in our text is kloros. The best key to discovering the meaning of any word is usage. This Greek word appears in only three other places in the New Testament. Let us look at how the word is translated there, and what its obvious meaning is by its usage. When Jesus was preparing to multiply the loaves and the fishes to feed the five thousand, we read, “And He commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green (kloros) grass” (Mk. 6:39). Do you suppose Jesus was talking about pale grass, ashy pale grass, sickly green grass, livid grass, pallid grass, or ash-colored grass? I don’t think so! Everyone knows that grass is known for its green color. The next two references are in the book of Revelation, the same book where the word is translated pale. Notice now how it is translated in the other two places! “The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green (kloros) grass was burnt up” (Rev. 8:7). “And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green (kloros) thing, neither any tree…” (Rev. 9:4). If this is such a “horrible” word, with such a “horrible” meaning, as the commentator above characterized it, why is all grass, trees, and vegetation of all kinds defined as being this color? Obviously, the word means green!"
"We meet the color green under another symbol in chapter four of the Revelation. Caught up into heaven, beholding the throne of God and Him that sat upon it, John said, “And there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald” (Rev. 4:3). Webster defines emerald as: (1) a green transparent variety of beryl used as a gemstone. (2) a clear deep green color. Ireland is called “The Emerald Isle” because of the abundance of lush dark green vegetation. The rainbow around the throne reveals the great truth that the throne is not a power of destruction, but the very power of life! While most rainbows have more than one color, this rainbow was in appearance like unto an emerald — accentuating only the color green. Green in scripture is the supreme color of LIFE! Yes, there is death to the old, but in the throne we ascend to the highest dimension of life — divine, incorruptible, immortal Life! John fell as dead before the face of the One sitting on the throne — his old Adamic life, identity, nature, and mind slain by the fiery glory of God! But let your heart consider the words of this glorious One when He says to John, “Fear not. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore!” In other words, “Don’t be afraid to give up your will, John, your ways, your desires, your emotions, your plans, your hopes, your dreams, your thoughts, your carnal, human identity. Don’t be afraid,” says the Lord Jesus, “for I had to give them all up when I walked in the flesh. I died! BUT BEHOLD, I AM ALIVE FOR EVERMORE!” Therein is the power of both death and life! The consuming fire of God will absolutely destroy every vestige of the carnal mind and the flesh life. And then the rainbow of promise establishes within the covenant of divine, heavenly life and reality. Adam dies and Christ arises within us! This is the glory of sonship! We die to the old that we may live in the new! Thus, both death and life are wrought in us by the mighty Christ of God! Oh, the mystery of it!"
Much more in the link:
https://www.godfire.net/eby/rev-89.html
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Ah, sorry about that.
I'm just saying it how I've seen it.
I think a word study on the Greek word would be helpful.
It's not super important to get all the symbolism right away. The Holy Spirit can teach us with the little bit we know.
If you're trying to make the pale horse evil, or illuding to an evil thing, I'd disagree.
We sure don't get it all right away.
The series I read taught it as representing life. Something about plants in the spring.
I guess I'll look it up for you and share it here.
Thanks again.