Look, all I'm sayin' is.... GAW has a pretty decent track record!
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Except that with a little bit of critical thinking and basic math and physics knowledge, you can see it for yourself. Every flat earth theory gets debunked with proof from right here on the surface, and the flat earthers just cover their ears.
Saying "it could be... idk" doesn't help your case when others say "it's not and here's exactly why..."
Stop acting like you have a shred of the knowledge required to test it yourself. You cant, no one youve ever met can. You just "believe", because that narrative has been pushed down your throat since birth.
And we use water as a level in construction. Water finds level...
And i'll ask you as well, where do you think terra mar is?
Certainly not with that attitude. Have you never been in a tall building? To a beach? In a plane? And no, I'm not talking about seeing a curved horizon, but rather observing objects and landmarks falling below the horizon from different viewing heights.
I spent the first two decades of my professional life as an architect, so I know a little bit about construction (and physics and math). A good portion of that time was spent doing sun studies (figuring out exactly where shadows will fall depending on date and time), and I can tell you from my own experience and knowledge that the sun's shadows behave exactly as they did when the ancient Greeks not only figured out that the Earth was round, but also its diameter (all from the ground!).
Heck, check where the Earth's terminator line is right now, call some random people in area codes along it, and ask if the sun is setting or rising at that moment.
Get an app like Star Walk 2 or Sky Tonight and watch for yourself the Sun, Moon, planets and stars move through the sky exactly as "they" tell us they should.
There are so many experiments you can do yourself, and the results somehow always match up with what we've been told to believe. I'd challenge any flat-earther to show me using a flat earth map where the sun is setting and rising or the direction and distance its shadows should fall. Or how long it should take for a plane to fly between two distant cities by measuring on one of their maps. Or where the stars should be in the sky at any given moment in time.
You're the one simply repeating what you've heard. "Water finds level" is a dumbed-down sound bite repeated by people (really mostly TikTokers) who think they now know better than everyone else while at the same time claiming nobody has the knowledge to test it themself. You think you're uncovering some kind of conspiracy, but you clearly only believe what you can see in your own view and are refusing to look and think further.
Honestly I can't even fathom how closed off someone's mind has to be to think the Earth is flat just because they haven't seen it from space themself or that "water finds level" is some kind of gotcha while they don't even understand enough high school level physics to know that water IS level on a globe when the water level is always the same distance from the globe's center of gravity.
I have no idea what you're talking about here. Feel free to educate me, and certainly feel free to ask for clarification on any specific globe-Earth topics that you don't think make sense. I'll be happy to answer.
Im a climber by hobby, summited the highest peaks in north america. Flew countless times. There is certainly no height that we can reach to see the curve. I have pics at 20,000ft and 14,500ft to prove that.
But the horizon effect is the limitation of the optic being used. Start with your eyes, look for an object "disappearing behind the horizon". Now grab some binoculars and the object will reappear. Then repeat, find a further object "disappearing behind the horizon" with binoculars. Then grab a telescope and it reappears.
The rate at which objects should disappear is also incorrect. Standing upright, you should not be able to see another person standing upright at 5 miles. But you can, easily. You can see end to end at the salt flats. Ive been there too. Its 12 mile long and you can watch a car drive across the entire thing. At 12 miles that car should be 52ft below the horizon, but its not. Its in plain view.
Also on a flat earth map the sun and moon dont set. They are both up rotating around. There are many many examples that you can look up.
Youre missing the point. If water finds level. All bodies of water all level/flat. Thats impossible on a round object.
Terra Mar is a location that ghislaine maxwell claimed legal citizenship of at her trial. I cant believe how little traction that got. She is a legal citizen of a place that is not on any map and no one cares.
As I said, I'm not talking about seeing a curved horizon. I'm well aware that it's imperceptible even at cruising altitude for most planes in the air. That does not prove a flat Earth or disprove a globe that is 8000 miles in diameter.
This is absolutely wrong and I am actually shocked to hear it. Binoculars, telescopes, and zoom lenses do not make objects appear that are otherwise actually invisible to the naked eye. They magnify what is already there. You are essentially changing your field of view, but not your point of view (unless your talking about a periscope of course).
I'd love to see some evidence of that. Following this flat earth stuff for years, and I have never seen anything at the level you're suggesting. When I go to the beach here, tankers and cargo ships 10-15 miles out are like half obscured by the horizon. Forgive me if I doubt you're clearly seeing a car across the longest part of the flats.
Also, the distance you get from a calculation generally assumes a straight line to the subject, but does not take into account any atmospheric refraction, which would give you a slightly better view.
Have you never watched a sunset from those peaks you've climbed? If the Earth is flat, and the horizon is however many thousands of feet below you, how can you explain to yourself that the sun disappears behind it?
Side note, I was once in Iceland in mid-summer and I watched the sun set and then rise like 10 minutes later (not from the other direction obviously, it just did a curve dip below the horizon). This is something that is easy to understand with a globe-earth model, and can be visualized in any globe-earth simulation, but it was still very interesting to see in person. If it was just floating around above the flat earth, it would never have gotten even that low.
You're missing the point that water is only "level" because it is attracted to the Earth's center of gravity, which is at the center of the globe. The "sea level" is always roughly the same distance from the center of the earth. I say roughly because I'm ignoring the variances in gravitational influence from land masses and the Moon (tides, duh).
Probably because if you read the deposition, even the judge did not take that claim seriously. Just because she made that claim does not give it any legal standing. She is not a legal citizen of a place that doesn't exist just because she said so. She is a citizen of the US, UK, and France.