I saw him interviewed on the PBD podcast yesterday. I had no idea he never actually met Obama face to face. I looked back and apparently that was something reported at the time of his firing. Not sure how I missed that, but I did. Still, pretty odd of Obama to tell Trump of all the people in the world he needed to worry about were Putin and Flynn. He at least met Putin.

Towards the end of the interview, they very clumsily tried to bring up Devolution (Trump being CIC) and ""there qre people on the internet/Qanon", etc. He shut it down pretty quick saying it was BS. But the question was asked so badly, plus, he was pretty evasive. It didn't help they were coming up towards the end of their time. It may be BS, I always keep that in the back of my mind, but when you just spent two hours talking about 5GW, uh, how do I know you aren't just evading the question because it isn't time yet?