Greetings Gentlemen,
I am grateful to be apart of such amazing times as we live in now. The things we have experienced in our recent years, and will experience in the next few years will indeed, be some of the most interesting times of our lives, and I am optimistic for what is to come, and what our future, and even our nation will become.
Our nation has been demoralized, our families have been divided, our culture has been split into a million pieces and the creativity, the drive and innovation of individuals has all but disappeared.
If you are not familiar with the incorporation of the united states, that is a subject of research I welcome you to venture into.
We live in a corporate world, and it’s important I think to realize that the interest of any corporation is the corporation. It is a matter of fact that governments of the world have incorporated themselves, and it is useful to recognize that fact, and consider the implications of such when reading in order to fully comprehend the scope of EO 13848.
It should be recognized, and it should be directly obvious to anyone that the purpose of government is to serve the people in any nation. What is not obvious to many is that for over a century, our own government has operated on the corporate level, to the extent that people are represented as individual “corporations” as opposed to people. According to the laws of the land, and the rules of English, any name is written in the manner such as “george washington”. There is no capitalization in a name, indeed, there is no instance in English where a name can exist written in a manner that uses only capitalization. Certainly, you can be taught differently, and perhaps you may read differently. However if the foundation of your nation exists on writing written and represented by words that have meanings and rules different than the ones that exist presently, in order to properly interpret such a document, it must be according to the rules of that time.
If you take out your wallet, and look upon the name written on your identification card, you may find it written in such a way that says “GEORGE WASHINGTON”. It is important to recognize that is not your name. It is equally important to recognize that you are not your name, just as much as water is not the word water. When a judge, an officer, or any member of government asks if you are “GEORGE WASHINGTON”, or you hand your identification card over, you are representing yourself as an individual corporation, making contracts with another corporation. Any time you sign your name, you are signing into contract, placing your individual corporation as the debtor and your physical body as surety (collateral). This is why when you are “charged” by government in some capacity, if you do not pay their fees, your physical body serves the consequences as opposed to the corporate fiction.
I would like to bring attention to several details of EO 13848. The first is that it was placed initially by Donald Trump, and extended two times by Joe Biden.
It is titled as following: “Donald J. Trump, Executive Order 13848—Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election”
Let’s review Sec. 2. (a) Sec. 2. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security:
Take note please in regards to “the following persons”.
(i) to have directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in a United States election; (ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity described in subsection (a)(i) of this section or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or (iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property or interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.
This is very broad when you consider the implications. It is worth considering the implications that this executive order, although established by the last President is renewed now twice under Joe Biden.
Now consider for a moment how many corporations are owned, partially owned, operated, or in some manner handled from over seas.
I am not pointing fingers at anyone, I am making no accusation nor endorsement of any person, I won’t say there was election fraud in any recent elections that would cause this EO to be triggered. Instead what I will do is simply point out what I have noticed:
Walmart has completely changed. They actually have good customer service now. They no longer try to dress people in rags, and they are providing quality displays and clothing. Furthermore, the self checkouts all have “Notes” as opposed to “Us Dollar” on the registers. You can consider those implications, I will just leave it there.
YouTube no longer shows recommendations to anyone with search history off and cleared. How could it before, and why won’t it now? Consider the implications.
Consider the main stream Media in the United States. There has been a very clear shift in what is being said. Consider the implications.
If you just look around you at all the subtle changes in leadership, and in corporations you will see a very clear trend. They are becoming better for the public, and especially being more transparent in what they do behind the scenes. Consider the implications.
This is Sovereign Citizen Movement stuff.
And I have never seen anything they advise working in any court of law. Whenever I ask to be given the name of a case where someone won a case or had it dismissed due to their tactics, no one can do that.
But I have seen plenty of YouTube videos of Sovereign Citizens getting tazed, getting their car windows bashed out and dragged out of cars, getting their houses foreclosed on and get dragged out of them by sheriffs, losing custody of their kids to their exes, and get sentenced to contempt of court and generally getting thrown in jail for trying to use some of the stuff mentioned here.
So before going down this path because you (I mean the general "you" as in anyone that reads this, not to the OP here) think it sounds good, no court of law is going to make any decision based on whether your name is written in all caps or not. If you think you're going to walk into a court and have anything go your way using this nonsense, then you really should go spend some time watching other Sovereign Citizens do it on YouTube.
But, hey, maybe you'll be different from all the others and it will work for you. 🤷 I, for one, never get tired of watching those videos and welcome the new content you'll create on YouTube.
No one is saying to go around and try to get out of stuff by pointing out an all caps name. That is not how it works.
This is not "Sovereign Citizen", that is a BS term made up to deride researchers, much like "conspiracy theorist".
OP is explaining the tactics they use to confuse us and trick us into giving up our rights, which the courts can pounce on because we are too stupid to recognize these tricks and call them out.
So you like to watch vids of cops busting people doors and car windows for trying to stand up for their rights? What the hell are you doing here then, bootlicker?
Here's another, important reason that shows the problems with what the Free Citizens/Sovereign Citizens/Whatever They Want To Call Themselves spout.
It completely goes against everything we've been fighting for here in getting people to pay for their crimes.
The Sovereign Citizens (that's what I'm going to call them, I don't care if you get butt hurt over it) basically believe the government has no jurisdiction over us. (I finally remembered that stuff you/they believe concerning the definition/meaning of "jurisdiction".)
And that applies to ANYONE who wants to claim that they are "free" because :Insert whatever word salad they come up with to justify their reasoning here:.
So what would stop all these pedophiles from using this defense? Or Biden? Or Obama? Or the Clintons? Or any of the other people involved in all the sick shit that goes down?
What is stopping any of them from suddenly discovering that they are "free" and using all this jibber jabber about jurisdiction and strawmen and being "hillary of the family clinton" and all the other stuff that those in the know tell people to say in court?
So if the government truly doesn't have any sort of jurisdiction over us, how do we expect to have all these criminals we've been fighting pay for their crimes?
That's not what it means and that's not what I said.
Whoever it is claiming they can just do whatever the fuck they want with no repercussions because "jurisdiction" is an idiot and if that's what you think it is then so are you.
It is harm to another human being that makes the difference.
A statute violation is not a crime without a victim. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
I don't think that's what jurisdiction is. I'm simply repeating what Sovereign Citizens say.
So the only crimes that matter and people can be punished over are ones where someone physically harmed someone else?
So how do we prosecute Biden for financial crimes? Or try anyone for treason?
Or any of the other thousands of crimes Democrats have committed where they haven't physically harmed someone?
There are plenty of ways to stand up for your rights that are legal and will work. I have no problem with people standing up for their rights.
I DO take issue with people who believe they're special little snowflakes who aren't required to follow the same laws as everyone else. And who are delusional enough to believe they can ride around in cars with no tags, or expired tags and not be pulled over. And when they're pulled over and refuse to give the officer their name or license, and start in with the "I don't need a driver's license to travel." nonsense and they get forcibly removed from the car, yes, it makes me laugh.
I don't know where anything from Q says we're not subject to laws here. And I'm pretty sure Q isn't about anarchy.
Not agreeing with everything the government does doesn't mean that I think I'm not subject to living by the laws here.
If I did think that, I wouldn't have a problem with all the illegal stuff BLM protesters do.
There are plenty of legal ways to fight corruption in the system. Smart ways.
Stating that you're too special to obey the laws because your name is in ALL CAPS on government-issued documents and whatever pseudo-legal gobbledygook they use isn't legal. Or smart.
So yes, I do laugh at them. Just like I laugh at all the other stupid people.
What's that saying? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes? I don't identify with them simply because I don't agree with everything the government does.
Everything you've said here is parroting the strawman argument of "Sovereign Citizens" which is the psyop designed to entrap people seeking to learn how to defend their rights lawfully.
This goes deep.
Unfortunately a lot of people get taken in by bullshit and get in trouble for not knowing what they are doing. Yes, it happens. It doesn't make them wrong or deserving of what happens to them. Some people have spent years behind bars for nothing except filling out a form wrong or trying to keep custody of their kids. Is that justice?
If anyone actually believes that, they are an idiot.
If you live in Texas do the laws of California apply to you?
What about the laws of Canada?
What about the laws of District of Columbia?
When you go to court one of the first things they look at is jurisdiction. The plaintiff has to prove the court has jurisdiction over the parties in the case, and show evidence that the defendant committed a crime. The defendant does not carry the burden of proof.
Now, if you know how jurisdiction works, you should understand what people are trying to do when they say that such and such doesn't apply to them. It's not being a snowflake.
Why exactly does that matter to you? If my tags are expired does that harm you? Does it cause you distress?
So you endorse violence against peaceful people who refuse to identify themselves to road pirates. Got it.
I don't even know where to start with all this.
I'm sorry that I'm not using the correct pronouns, I mean, name for whatever the people who call themselves Sovereign Citizens want to be called. I originally learned about all that from David Icke's forum board called, "Sovereign Citizens", so I thought that was what they were called. Silly me.
I don't know where you're getting all this anti-law stuff being part of Q. Nothing I've ever read from Q said any of the stuff you're saying.
I even remember when we were all about "Blue Lives Matter" and the "Thin Blue Line".
And yes, I laugh at people whose mouths write checks their asses can't cash. Just like I laugh when BLM protesters get what they deserve. Are you going to pretend you're supporting all those BLM protesters when they don't comply with the cops and get taken down?
This is what I was talking about on another thread here today. The blatant hypocrisy. You back those people that I don't know how to identify other than Sovereign Citizens for not being sheep and "standing up for their rights" and not complying with law enforcement. But I will bet anything that you aren't on the side of BLM, who are doing virtually the same thing. Breaking laws and resisting law enforcement because they don't agree with the rules and laws we're supposed to all live by. They just do it without all the pseudo-legal gibberish.
Edited to add:
I 100% support people who are fighting against unjust treatment by the government. But I disagree with you on what is considered "unjust treatment".
I'm going to take a shot in the dark here concerning all the "jurisdiction" comments in your post. No matter what state, county, or city you're a legal resident of, you still must comply with the laws of other states if you are physically in that state. Even if you are simply traveling. I do not think it's unjust treatment for someone to be pulled over for traffic violations in States they are not a resident of.
But for people whose rights have actually been violated, I support them 100%. I think they have every right to defend themselves. In a legal way. And preferably in a way that will work. And all the stuff that is spouted by "That Group" DOES NOT WORK. And more often than not results in additional fines and time served.
But prove me wrong. Give me the name of a case that someone had dropped or won thanks to the tactics of that group that must not be named.
I'll wait.