Apparently the Garden Watchdog hasn't been updated since Dave left. It has a lot of listings for places that no longer exist. I've ordered from both of those. Both are sold at a local nursery so I don't order. Another terrific catalog that sends huge packets is Seeds from Italy. Lots of interesting Italian varieties. I love that I can find heirloom seeds and even plants at local shops now. I remember scouring catalogs to find some.