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Amen friend.
I do understand your understanding of Revelation.
Revelation is not set in physical time. Typology is heavily used in Revelation. Apocalyptic language is also used.
Babylon is not set in time, it has been the city of the devil since the fall of man.
New Jerusalem is not set in time either, it has been the city of God typed in old Jerusalem and presently coming down from heaven. New Jerusalem is a heaven mindset people, we are the servants of God right now in the midst of Babylon.
We all come out of Babylon and we all come into new Jerusalem.
The part that dispensationalists miss is the throne of God. Dispensationalism makes the book of Revelation physical and sets the book in physical time.
Setting the book of Revelation in physical time is the error that has plagues the understanding of the book since Dispensationalism arose in Christian theology.
The mark of Babylon is 666 it is in the mind, we all had the Babylon mind before we were sealed by Jesus Christ in our foreheads with the Father’s name that is realized in the new birth and the Holy Spirit that we've recieved.
Babylon is the city of Adamic man, Adamic man's life is lived out by the babylon mind, the Babylon mind is the carnal mind of Romans 8.
This short essay about the throne of God will explain it:
https://communities.win/c/RevelationOfJesusChrist/p/17rSsbG62E/the-power-source-of-the-christia/c
Angels are messengers of a particular logos(word), they are not physical beings, they are typed(typology) just as man is typed(typology).
The measage of this angel is the measage and song of the spiritual order of the 144,000.
Babylon is fallen fallen. Babylon has always been fallen, the messengers speak of the falleness of Babylon to the those still in the Babylon mind.
Chapter 17 starts the explanation of the judgment of Babylon. Chapter 17, 18, and 19 are all about understanding the judgment of Babylon.
The saints judge Babylon.
That is a type of Jesus Christ, the corporate body of Christ, New Jerusalem. The earth is a type of Babylon. We are the great light as Jesus Christ has magnified himself in us.
We have come out of Babylon and we minister to Babylon as priests from the kingdom of God.
Priests in the world we are:
https://communities.win/c/RevelationOfJesusChrist/p/17rSVCCwHo/priests-/c
The Babylon mind is manifest in the physical world for all to see, just as the Christ mind in manifest through the church for all to see.
Revelation 14 is the triumphant 144,000, their measage is always victory, they work with those that still have the mark, the Babylon mind.
This is the patience and faith of the saints. Notice the fire(God's presence) and brimstone(purification) is in the presence of the Lamb and His holy messengers. We are the holy messengers.
Forever and ever means in all ages, the Revelation of Jesus Christ is not set in physical time.
There is a torment going on for those that are still in the Babylon mind. The priests of God are involved with them, we experience the torment with them, but not as them.
We all come out of Babylon.
Where We Go One We Go All
Where We've Been Individually We've Been All.