I just told you that you are doing everything right and you continue to tell me I am doing things wrong. Do you not see the difference in us? I am lifting you up and you are pushing me down.
You say I have boxed myself in because I think for myself and am not held back by fear. Then you tell me "We must take the bible as a whole not come up with theories and try to bend the bible to them." Which is literally boxing yourself in.
Do you not see what you are doing?
Something guided you to ask ME to explain things. Have you listened at all? Maybe I said something you needed to hear. Unless you only asked because you think you know better and wanted to "fix me". If that is the case then that is both deceitful and arrogant.
Don't worry about me, I am fine. I hope this helped you do some introspection. This conversation has gone as far as it can go. It truly was a pleasure. Have a great night.
To clarify some points because you have misunderstood..
I never said I am trying to save you. Only Jesus saves. We can help each other with how we word things and how we can best witness to others. It's a body of Christ.
not all religions use the path of Jesus. Rather they steal truths and bring it to there own. Eventually the whole world will profess him as God and accept him in there hearts. King of King and Lord of Lord.
brainwashing. This is a good example of why it's so hard for me to explain things to you. I didn't say you were brainwashed I asked if you have looked into it. For a very specific reason that wasn't saying you are. It's a very interesting subject. Same with NLP and other stuff like that. Part of it involves matching the person where they are. I'm trying to explain why you get so much push back. That's great Jesus is in your heart.
I don't believe we can work our way to Jesus. It's all in his hands. I can do nothing separate of Christ. This mindset unlocks a servant ability that allows us to do far more than sit on sidelines
maybe I'm not showing it in my words but truly I do understand what you are saying with your words. All of this has been part of my journey as well. All I ask is for us to both pray on each other words and see if Jesus gives us anything new
You repeatedly told me that you have been where I am. Have you considered that I have been where you are?
Where am I at that you think you have been?
I did research for many many years. When I finally surrendered and accepted Jesus my whole life changed. I started getting visions, synchronicities, telepathy, and my intuition greatly increased. There was a point where I thought I was a "chosen one". That is a tricky stage that most Souls get stuck at because our ego tells us that we are special and we think we need to "save" others. The truth is that the outside world is merely a reflection of what is inside us.
Yes this is the first and very crucial step in things. If you admit this played a part then how can you now take credit for things that came after. As if you willed it. You can't say that it is both all belonging to God as well as I did this and that. Jesus is who guides us. Separation from this thought leads to downfall. This is not fear based this is truth. Sometimes truth corrects so we can get back on the right narrow path. Evil does exist we are just called to focus on the good. You are at the point where all things become one. Which is great. Not knocking where u are at all.
The bible is meant to bring us to relationship with God. A deep intimate relationship where we follow his voice. That voice guiding us is Jesus. All things belong to him. I never once said I heal people. I said I follow Jesus voice and he guides me to things. A humble heart towards Jesus, following his voice, allows us to do miracles that would seem impossible to most. It most definitely is not us doing it though. Jesus gets the glory. We can't ignore the work he wants us to do in this world and simply sit back and say nothing matters I can't or shouldn't help people because that's ego. We walk the will of Jesus. The person must accept the healing or words because they have free will. Again it's not us it's all Jesus.
The triangle yog describe is being in the world and not of it. However we can be outside and still take part. Through Jesus. That's the difference between us and them(evil) is that we allow Jesus to guide and they allow the flesh to guide.
What do you think expand your thinking means. You are using all these catch phrases but I don't think you are giving credit to the source of what expanded that thinking. It's not simply just taking in knowledge. Even Satan has this knowledge you speak of. It can be miss used. That's why it takes humility and Jesus. The whole point of him coming :)
If you integrate your thoughts back to Jesus and giving him the glory. Much more will open up and your words will ring truth in people and begin to cause change. You are sharing things here so there is some element of wanting to take part in the change. It must come from Jesus and not yourself
Almost every time I respond to you, you take what I say to mean something else. You only see what you want to see. The answers to most of your questions to me can be found in my previous replies. All the information is there, you just don't see it. You think you have me all figured out and have built a version of me in your head. Then you take what I say and spin it to fit what you falsely believe. Your lack of understanding comes through in your questions.
Gonna back out of this. Let's both pray on each other's words.
Matthew 9:37-38 KJV
Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Why do you keep erasing your comments? I hope that you do not feel shame for anything you may have said. It is important to accept who we are and if looking back helps you see that you may have worded something poorly that is good. That is growth. We are both learning from each other. [hopefully]
If I ask questions I like to be able to finish the discussion. So since I wasn't able to do that I deleted it and moved forward. No shame at all just don't have the time to walk your through all the questions I asked and didn't want you to respond to something long if I couldnt share why I asked it.
When I was blunt with my response you accused me of things so i have to go about it in question form to prove the point I am trying to make.
I agree it's important to be able to look back at stuff and don't delete for that reason. If someone isn't being receptive to things or is defensive. Sometimes you gotta adjust your strategy or move on for the time being. I let Jesus guide me though I am not perfect with that I can tell the difference between the 2. Sometimes he directs me to change this or that. Or to stop the dialogue because it's not beneficial or won't be understood. It makes it even more of a challenge when someone throws names around or read things as negative or bad intentions
Did you get my response to the last comment you deleted?
It makes it even more of a challenge when someone throws names around or read things as negative or bad intentions.
Your intentions are pure. But warning me and implying that I am brainwashed or on the 'wrong' path is negative whether you realize it or not. You are trying to scare me into doing something. That is control. That is a false light.
Do not take it personally, use what I say to spread your word with more compassion. By the way, you are very level-headed compared to other people that I have had long conversations with. It does not take much to trigger most people. You did great. :)
I said I accepted "Jesus". What that means is I accepted that there is a higher power. That is what is crucial and that is what ALL religions have in common. Each holy book has different names or words for the same process.
You say things like "Not make him into simply something we achieve rather something we surrender to" Implying that I have not "surrendered" myself. What you do not understand [in my opinion] is that controlling our emotions is something we are in control of and by doing so we can "tune in" or "resonate with" different entities [intelligences] [archetypes]. If we resonate with a lower-level entity we will be guided by that entity. Jesus is who we resonate with when we resonate with unconditional love. So by meditating, quieting our minds, controlling our emotions, and filling our hearts with unconditional love, we get his attention. and he begins to work with us. In order to resonate with unconditional love we have to surrender. We need to release all negative emotions, hate, anger, jealousy, etc. Those are all "Demons" They rear their ugly heads when we allow our emotions to trigger us. When I see religious people [not you] start downvoting and being nasty, those are the demons that they are carrying around with them. They do not even realize it but because they read the Bible and Believe in Jesus they think that are saved. They don't understand that they can heal that trauma and work with him directly.
Jesus died on the cross to give us an example of unconditional love. He could have fought the Roman soldiers and kicked and screamed the whole way but he chose to "forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do" The meek shall inherit the Earth. Not the fighters or ego-driven gurus. So when you try to SCARE me by insinuating that I am brainwashed and continuously warn me about the path I am on, it makes me chuckle because indeed "the irony is rich". But that is okay. I forgive you for you know not what you do.
I am starting to lose interest in our conversation. We seem to be going in circles. I am explaining what I believe and you are trying to "save" me. lol.
I do not look to the outside world for saving, I have "Jesus" in my heart and he guides me just fine. :)
I just told you that you are doing everything right and you continue to tell me I am doing things wrong. Do you not see the difference in us? I am lifting you up and you are pushing me down
The bible says we can reprove each other. Simply saying everyone is doing what they are supposed to so there is no true truth is kinda silly sounding and leaves out why we need Jesus.
You say I have boxed myself in because I think for myself and am not held back by fear. Then you tell me "We must take the bible as a whole not come up with theories and try to bend the bible to them." Which is literally boxing yourself in.
The bible does not box one in because it has endless layers of truth. Picking one or 2 verses is what I was talking about. We must let it guide us not come up with something and then seek to align the bible to that. It's a living word for a reason
I encourage you to seek out a church to belong to. U say you don't like how they do things but a humble heart should by pass that. It's a super important thing to have(if you dont already)
The bible says we can absolutely reproof someone. I asked you to explain because I wanted to understand your beliefs. Then as it developed, opportunity to reproof came up because of experience I had. Jesus knows my intentions were pure. You can continue to use the hot button words to deflect that's your choice. I can't control your free will. I can speak truth of Jesus though. Seeds were planted. You have a blessed night n
I told you that you are doing everything right because everything is in God's hands and he is perfect. You are right where you need to be. If I were to tell you that you are doing something wrong that would be "Eating from the Tree of Good and Evil" it is not for us to judge.
Proverbs 19:25
25 Strike a scoffer, and the simple will learn prudence; reprove a man of understanding, and he will gain knowledge. 25 If you punish a mocker, the simpleminded will learn a lesson; if you correct the wise, they will be all the wiser. :) the choice is yours
There are other but I will end on this. We can talk more in future. :)
All I ask is that you pray on my words with a humble open heart. Jesus is bigger then you and me can ever image. Who do you think Q is? Deep intimate relationship with him. Guides you in all things. Follow him or follow yourself. The choice is yours :) God works in mysterious ways. Humans can often miss the breadcrumbs laid right before them. Free will still exist. God does not force us to follow him. Hallelujah we love you Jesus. Continue to bring us closer to you
Yes I have read and studied all 3 of the Enoch books, as well as read p many of the other books that got taken out. Even studied gnostic/ mystic religions as well and belonged to an order rosecrusians for some time
You repeatedly told me that you have been where I am. Have you considered that I have been where you are?
I did research for many many years. When I finally surrendered and accepted Jesus my whole life changed. I started getting visions, synchronicities, telepathy, and my intuition greatly increased. There was a point where I thought I was a "chosen one". That is a tricky stage that most Souls get stuck at because our ego tells us that we are special and we think we need to "save" others. The truth is that the outside world is merely a reflection of what is inside us. When we try to control it [fight] we end up making it worse. That is why wars get started. Instead of realizing that we are all one, we think we know what is best for "others". Then we can justify our negative actions towards them like thinking it is okay to "Strike a scoffer". That is "False light".
Why would the Bible say in one breath to "Strike a scoffer, and the simple will learn prudence" and in the other say, “But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.”?
The truth is when we find inner peace [Jesus] we know right from wrong and live our lives in peace. We do not force ourselves on others and claim that "I was guided to certain people that need healing and know how to heal them" That is your ego guiding you. When our ego finally melts away that is when the real magic starts. :)
Society has been designed to keep us trapped in a kind of Karpman Drama Triangle [Pyramid] where the people shift between three roles, Persecutor, Rescuer, and Victim, all held in place by guilt and blame. The trick is to become an observer and remove ourselves from the game. This is what the all-seeing eye sitting above a pyramid represents.
I am not saying you should stop reading the Bible because there is a lot of good stuff in there but when we "expand our thinking" the messages get more profound.
I just told you that you are doing everything right and you continue to tell me I am doing things wrong. Do you not see the difference in us? I am lifting you up and you are pushing me down.
You say I have boxed myself in because I think for myself and am not held back by fear. Then you tell me "We must take the bible as a whole not come up with theories and try to bend the bible to them." Which is literally boxing yourself in.
Do you not see what you are doing?
Something guided you to ask ME to explain things. Have you listened at all? Maybe I said something you needed to hear. Unless you only asked because you think you know better and wanted to "fix me". If that is the case then that is both deceitful and arrogant.
Don't worry about me, I am fine. I hope this helped you do some introspection. This conversation has gone as far as it can go. It truly was a pleasure. Have a great night.
To clarify some points because you have misunderstood..
I never said I am trying to save you. Only Jesus saves. We can help each other with how we word things and how we can best witness to others. It's a body of Christ.
not all religions use the path of Jesus. Rather they steal truths and bring it to there own. Eventually the whole world will profess him as God and accept him in there hearts. King of King and Lord of Lord.
brainwashing. This is a good example of why it's so hard for me to explain things to you. I didn't say you were brainwashed I asked if you have looked into it. For a very specific reason that wasn't saying you are. It's a very interesting subject. Same with NLP and other stuff like that. Part of it involves matching the person where they are. I'm trying to explain why you get so much push back. That's great Jesus is in your heart.
I don't believe we can work our way to Jesus. It's all in his hands. I can do nothing separate of Christ. This mindset unlocks a servant ability that allows us to do far more than sit on sidelines
maybe I'm not showing it in my words but truly I do understand what you are saying with your words. All of this has been part of my journey as well. All I ask is for us to both pray on each other words and see if Jesus gives us anything new
Where am I at that you think you have been?
Yes this is the first and very crucial step in things. If you admit this played a part then how can you now take credit for things that came after. As if you willed it. You can't say that it is both all belonging to God as well as I did this and that. Jesus is who guides us. Separation from this thought leads to downfall. This is not fear based this is truth. Sometimes truth corrects so we can get back on the right narrow path. Evil does exist we are just called to focus on the good. You are at the point where all things become one. Which is great. Not knocking where u are at all.
The bible is meant to bring us to relationship with God. A deep intimate relationship where we follow his voice. That voice guiding us is Jesus. All things belong to him. I never once said I heal people. I said I follow Jesus voice and he guides me to things. A humble heart towards Jesus, following his voice, allows us to do miracles that would seem impossible to most. It most definitely is not us doing it though. Jesus gets the glory. We can't ignore the work he wants us to do in this world and simply sit back and say nothing matters I can't or shouldn't help people because that's ego. We walk the will of Jesus. The person must accept the healing or words because they have free will. Again it's not us it's all Jesus.
The triangle yog describe is being in the world and not of it. However we can be outside and still take part. Through Jesus. That's the difference between us and them(evil) is that we allow Jesus to guide and they allow the flesh to guide.
What do you think expand your thinking means. You are using all these catch phrases but I don't think you are giving credit to the source of what expanded that thinking. It's not simply just taking in knowledge. Even Satan has this knowledge you speak of. It can be miss used. That's why it takes humility and Jesus. The whole point of him coming :)
If you integrate your thoughts back to Jesus and giving him the glory. Much more will open up and your words will ring truth in people and begin to cause change. You are sharing things here so there is some element of wanting to take part in the change. It must come from Jesus and not yourself
Ego.
Almost every time I respond to you, you take what I say to mean something else. You only see what you want to see. The answers to most of your questions to me can be found in my previous replies. All the information is there, you just don't see it. You think you have me all figured out and have built a version of me in your head. Then you take what I say and spin it to fit what you falsely believe. Your lack of understanding comes through in your questions.
I used to do the same thing.
The irony here is rich. Surely u can see that.
Gonna back out of this. Let's both pray on each other's words.
Matthew 9:37-38 KJV Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Why do you keep erasing your comments? I hope that you do not feel shame for anything you may have said. It is important to accept who we are and if looking back helps you see that you may have worded something poorly that is good. That is growth. We are both learning from each other. [hopefully]
God bless.
If I ask questions I like to be able to finish the discussion. So since I wasn't able to do that I deleted it and moved forward. No shame at all just don't have the time to walk your through all the questions I asked and didn't want you to respond to something long if I couldnt share why I asked it.
When I was blunt with my response you accused me of things so i have to go about it in question form to prove the point I am trying to make.
I agree it's important to be able to look back at stuff and don't delete for that reason. If someone isn't being receptive to things or is defensive. Sometimes you gotta adjust your strategy or move on for the time being. I let Jesus guide me though I am not perfect with that I can tell the difference between the 2. Sometimes he directs me to change this or that. Or to stop the dialogue because it's not beneficial or won't be understood. It makes it even more of a challenge when someone throws names around or read things as negative or bad intentions
Did you get my response to the last comment you deleted?
Your intentions are pure. But warning me and implying that I am brainwashed or on the 'wrong' path is negative whether you realize it or not. You are trying to scare me into doing something. That is control. That is a false light.
Do not take it personally, use what I say to spread your word with more compassion. By the way, you are very level-headed compared to other people that I have had long conversations with. It does not take much to trigger most people. You did great. :)
You fixate on words.
I said I accepted "Jesus". What that means is I accepted that there is a higher power. That is what is crucial and that is what ALL religions have in common. Each holy book has different names or words for the same process.
You say things like "Not make him into simply something we achieve rather something we surrender to" Implying that I have not "surrendered" myself. What you do not understand [in my opinion] is that controlling our emotions is something we are in control of and by doing so we can "tune in" or "resonate with" different entities [intelligences] [archetypes]. If we resonate with a lower-level entity we will be guided by that entity. Jesus is who we resonate with when we resonate with unconditional love. So by meditating, quieting our minds, controlling our emotions, and filling our hearts with unconditional love, we get his attention. and he begins to work with us. In order to resonate with unconditional love we have to surrender. We need to release all negative emotions, hate, anger, jealousy, etc. Those are all "Demons" They rear their ugly heads when we allow our emotions to trigger us. When I see religious people [not you] start downvoting and being nasty, those are the demons that they are carrying around with them. They do not even realize it but because they read the Bible and Believe in Jesus they think that are saved. They don't understand that they can heal that trauma and work with him directly.
Jesus died on the cross to give us an example of unconditional love. He could have fought the Roman soldiers and kicked and screamed the whole way but he chose to "forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do" The meek shall inherit the Earth. Not the fighters or ego-driven gurus. So when you try to SCARE me by insinuating that I am brainwashed and continuously warn me about the path I am on, it makes me chuckle because indeed "the irony is rich". But that is okay. I forgive you for you know not what you do.
I am starting to lose interest in our conversation. We seem to be going in circles. I am explaining what I believe and you are trying to "save" me. lol.
I do not look to the outside world for saving, I have "Jesus" in my heart and he guides me just fine. :)
The bible says we can reprove each other. Simply saying everyone is doing what they are supposed to so there is no true truth is kinda silly sounding and leaves out why we need Jesus.
The bible does not box one in because it has endless layers of truth. Picking one or 2 verses is what I was talking about. We must let it guide us not come up with something and then seek to align the bible to that. It's a living word for a reason
I encourage you to seek out a church to belong to. U say you don't like how they do things but a humble heart should by pass that. It's a super important thing to have(if you dont already)
The bible says we can absolutely reproof someone. I asked you to explain because I wanted to understand your beliefs. Then as it developed, opportunity to reproof came up because of experience I had. Jesus knows my intentions were pure. You can continue to use the hot button words to deflect that's your choice. I can't control your free will. I can speak truth of Jesus though. Seeds were planted. You have a blessed night n
I told you that you are doing everything right because everything is in God's hands and he is perfect. You are right where you need to be. If I were to tell you that you are doing something wrong that would be "Eating from the Tree of Good and Evil" it is not for us to judge.
Proverbs 19:25 25 Strike a scoffer, and the simple will learn prudence; reprove a man of understanding, and he will gain knowledge. 25 If you punish a mocker, the simpleminded will learn a lesson; if you correct the wise, they will be all the wiser. :) the choice is yours
There are other but I will end on this. We can talk more in future. :)
Q post #111 [not a coincidence]
"The complete picture would put 99% of Americans (the World) in a hospital."
What do you think the snake in the Garden of Eden represents?
Who do you think the "Wizards and Warlocks" are?
Have you read the book of Enoch? Why was that left out of the Bible?
As you said, "Satan is very sly"
https://youtu.be/nH0Am_IwxKk
We can talk more in the future. :)
All I ask is that you pray on my words with a humble open heart. Jesus is bigger then you and me can ever image. Who do you think Q is? Deep intimate relationship with him. Guides you in all things. Follow him or follow yourself. The choice is yours :) God works in mysterious ways. Humans can often miss the breadcrumbs laid right before them. Free will still exist. God does not force us to follow him. Hallelujah we love you Jesus. Continue to bring us closer to you
Yes I have read and studied all 3 of the Enoch books, as well as read p many of the other books that got taken out. Even studied gnostic/ mystic religions as well and belonged to an order rosecrusians for some time
You repeatedly told me that you have been where I am. Have you considered that I have been where you are?
I did research for many many years. When I finally surrendered and accepted Jesus my whole life changed. I started getting visions, synchronicities, telepathy, and my intuition greatly increased. There was a point where I thought I was a "chosen one". That is a tricky stage that most Souls get stuck at because our ego tells us that we are special and we think we need to "save" others. The truth is that the outside world is merely a reflection of what is inside us. When we try to control it [fight] we end up making it worse. That is why wars get started. Instead of realizing that we are all one, we think we know what is best for "others". Then we can justify our negative actions towards them like thinking it is okay to "Strike a scoffer". That is "False light".
Why would the Bible say in one breath to "Strike a scoffer, and the simple will learn prudence" and in the other say, “But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.”?
The truth is when we find inner peace [Jesus] we know right from wrong and live our lives in peace. We do not force ourselves on others and claim that "I was guided to certain people that need healing and know how to heal them" That is your ego guiding you. When our ego finally melts away that is when the real magic starts. :)
Society has been designed to keep us trapped in a kind of Karpman Drama Triangle [Pyramid] where the people shift between three roles, Persecutor, Rescuer, and Victim, all held in place by guilt and blame. The trick is to become an observer and remove ourselves from the game. This is what the all-seeing eye sitting above a pyramid represents.
I am not saying you should stop reading the Bible because there is a lot of good stuff in there but when we "expand our thinking" the messages get more profound.