Wilders is going way overboard on what he's calling for. Maybe taking down mosques and outlawing a religion is ok in the Netherlands but it is not how America works. Otherwise, I applaud someone in Europe is pointing out the immigrant agenda.
Islam is a scheme to invade and conquer the world, disguised as a religon.
ANYTHING calling itself a "religion" that advocates subjugating and murdering people of other religions is not a true religion, but instead a criminal organization.
Does Islam advocate subjugating and murdering infidels? Do its teachings RELIABLY lead to subjugation and murder of Christians and others as the percentage of Muslims increases in a nation?
Yes, absolutely -- including, near the end-point, of moderate Muslims who do not support Jihad (i.e., decent people who happen to have been raised in Islam).
Two suggestions for research into the actual nature of Islam:
I haven’t read the books you suggest here, but a serious question…. If, as you state, as the percentage of muslims increases in a nation, subjugation and murder of Christians reliably occur…. Why then are there over six thousand Christian churches in Iran, for example?
Also, is Mohammed bin Salman a muslim? From the way I understand it, POTUS alerted him to an imminent assassination attempt in NV, for which MbS was thankful enough to then assist POTUS in speaking to other high profile individuals that needed “persuasion” to get off the wrong paths they were pursuing. He also locked up several of the corrupt power players in his country and welcomed POTUS to participate in some meaningful rites (sword dance) in SA.
Does it make more sense perhaps that the radical islamists are the problem? Even the first book you linked doesn’t say “We must defeat Islam”, but rather “We must defeat radical Islam”.
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One final thought… as I recall, there was quite a lot of warring between two Christian ideologies in Ireland, both believing the other should be eradicated, before they were brought to their senses and came together. I have hope that good people of all religions can come together and fight against the evil ones of all religions.
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I can’t speak to what our servicemen and women who were sent to predominantly muslim countries to do battle over there and lost brothers-in-arms and/or were injured themselves harbor as emotions towards muslims in general; my perspective here is, admittedly, non-military and viewing the religious landscape from a 40K view over a historical timeline.
My knee-jerk reaction to Mr Wilder’s desire to mete out collective punishment to all muslims, closing their places of worship, for example, is revulsion. Perhaps it’s because we here in the States who are Christian can certainly imagine the current DS issuing an edict through their puppet Potatus that all churches are to be closed as they deem all Christians as “terrorists”. Just some of my thoughts. MHO.
A long excerpt: (Percentage numbers are from 2010 or earlier)
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
Thank you for providing this information. It’s quite interesting and I’ll definitely delve more into this in the future.
I also looked into the writer, Walid Shoebat, and from what I can tell, in addition to lambasting radical muslims, he also advocates for American muslims who aren’t radical. It seems that, despite his conversion from islam to Christianity, he does NOT feel that all muslims are savages. I’d be interested to hear what he has to say about this post’s topic of Dutch politician Wilder’s call to expel ALL muslims from his country and shutter their mosques.
In the information you provided above, Mr. Shoebat states the following:
“… From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in: (Etc) …”
… why is it that there are over six thousand Christian churches in Iran?
Please see the links I provided in my first comment in this post (regarding Christianity in Iran). There are pie charts about the religious makeup of Iranians which show that muslims are well over the 60% threshold that Mr Shoebat claims turn them into genocidal maniacs (he himself claims Iran is 98% muslim as per the data you shared). He states:
“… After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in: (etc) …”
If what Mr Shoebat states is true, how can there be ANY Christian churches or jewish synagogues in predominantly muslim countries? I just picked Iran as an example, but look into others.
Finally, if you have any inclination to read the fuller.edu link I provided in an above comment, I’d appreciate hearing your thoughts on it. I scanned it and at first glance it seems well-reasoned, will delve into it again.
Wilders is going way overboard on what he's calling for. Maybe taking down mosques and outlawing a religion is ok in the Netherlands but it is not how America works. Otherwise, I applaud someone in Europe is pointing out the immigrant agenda.
Islam is a scheme to invade and conquer the world, disguised as a religon.
ANYTHING calling itself a "religion" that advocates subjugating and murdering people of other religions is not a true religion, but instead a criminal organization.
Does Islam advocate subjugating and murdering infidels? Do its teachings RELIABLY lead to subjugation and murder of Christians and others as the percentage of Muslims increases in a nation?
Yes, absolutely -- including, near the end-point, of moderate Muslims who do not support Jihad (i.e., decent people who happen to have been raised in Islam).
Two suggestions for research into the actual nature of Islam:
They Must Be Stopped: Why We Must Defeat Radical Islam and How We Can Do It by Brigitte Gabriel
Heretic: Why Islam Needs a Reformation Now by Ayaan Hirsi Ali
I haven’t read the books you suggest here, but a serious question…. If, as you state, as the percentage of muslims increases in a nation, subjugation and murder of Christians reliably occur…. Why then are there over six thousand Christian churches in Iran, for example?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iran
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/september/iran-christian-conversions-gamaan-religion-survey.html
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Also, is Mohammed bin Salman a muslim? From the way I understand it, POTUS alerted him to an imminent assassination attempt in NV, for which MbS was thankful enough to then assist POTUS in speaking to other high profile individuals that needed “persuasion” to get off the wrong paths they were pursuing. He also locked up several of the corrupt power players in his country and welcomed POTUS to participate in some meaningful rites (sword dance) in SA.
Does it make more sense perhaps that the radical islamists are the problem? Even the first book you linked doesn’t say “We must defeat Islam”, but rather “We must defeat radical Islam”.
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One final thought… as I recall, there was quite a lot of warring between two Christian ideologies in Ireland, both believing the other should be eradicated, before they were brought to their senses and came together. I have hope that good people of all religions can come together and fight against the evil ones of all religions.
.
I can’t speak to what our servicemen and women who were sent to predominantly muslim countries to do battle over there and lost brothers-in-arms and/or were injured themselves harbor as emotions towards muslims in general; my perspective here is, admittedly, non-military and viewing the religious landscape from a 40K view over a historical timeline.
My knee-jerk reaction to Mr Wilder’s desire to mete out collective punishment to all muslims, closing their places of worship, for example, is revulsion. Perhaps it’s because we here in the States who are Christian can certainly imagine the current DS issuing an edict through their puppet Potatus that all churches are to be closed as they deem all Christians as “terrorists”. Just some of my thoughts. MHO.
https://shoebat.com/2011/07/02/what-to-expect-the-effect-of-muslim-population-growth-on-a-society/
Found that posted by /u/HenryBowman1984 as a comment to https://greatawakening.win/p/17rlw0uOy9/islam-phase-2/
A long excerpt: (Percentage numbers are from 2010 or earlier)
Thank you for providing this information. It’s quite interesting and I’ll definitely delve more into this in the future.
I also looked into the writer, Walid Shoebat, and from what I can tell, in addition to lambasting radical muslims, he also advocates for American muslims who aren’t radical. It seems that, despite his conversion from islam to Christianity, he does NOT feel that all muslims are savages. I’d be interested to hear what he has to say about this post’s topic of Dutch politician Wilder’s call to expel ALL muslims from his country and shutter their mosques.
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https://shoebat.com/shoebat-foundation/who-is-walid/
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Let me just ask again….
In the information you provided above, Mr. Shoebat states the following:
“… From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in: (Etc) …”
… why is it that there are over six thousand Christian churches in Iran?
Please see the links I provided in my first comment in this post (regarding Christianity in Iran). There are pie charts about the religious makeup of Iranians which show that muslims are well over the 60% threshold that Mr Shoebat claims turn them into genocidal maniacs (he himself claims Iran is 98% muslim as per the data you shared). He states:
“… After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in: (etc) …”
If what Mr Shoebat states is true, how can there be ANY Christian churches or jewish synagogues in predominantly muslim countries? I just picked Iran as an example, but look into others.
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https://www.jta.org/2021/03/05/global/peaceful-existence-jews-in-iran-freely-observe-their-religion-communal-leader-says
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Finally, if you have any inclination to read the fuller.edu link I provided in an above comment, I’d appreciate hearing your thoughts on it. I scanned it and at first glance it seems well-reasoned, will delve into it again.