I heard this today — an accusation against Q and the Plan.
I’ve never heard it and wondered if any of you have?
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i highly doubt they are synonymous.
although i'm open to the idea that ultimately that organization is with us, even if many parts of it are corrupt.
but i don't think every white hat has worked their way through the ranks of freemasonry. that seems like a huge and ridiculous stretch.
anyone using this as an argument against Q is waaay nuttier than most actual Q followers I know lol.
Why would you want parts of the snake with you knowing it's both poisonous and represents evil?
Like what educated mind would seriously want a pedophilic and satanic organization to join with us?
i know there are heinous acts in the history of freemasonry. but there are also heinous acts in the history of the republican party. also heinous acts done under the name of Chrisnity. but those weren't done by real republicans, nor were the heinous things done in the name of christianity done by real Christians.
I don't know the entire history of freemasonry. its old, and based on things that are older. it could be wholly evil from its inception. however, i do see God's plan working out. and I don't fear freemasonry, because even things that are wholly evil, God has still used for good.
I never said I want them with us, only that I am reserving judgement of the part that organization has played in history. because idk
Im a freemason. Tons of Christian patriots at my lodge. Ive been trying to tell people we are a force for good but people on here will just deny it. Its more fun to believe in the conspiracy for them.
Masons by the nature of their society are conspirators and to say the contrary is proving yourself either a Momo who doesn’t know history, a gullible sap who enjoys bbq’s at his lodge but doesn’t know more than that or your a liar and trying to deceive.
A great chapter detailing the subversion of masonry in the americas by the illuminists in the late 1700’s and early 1800’s
https://archive.org/details/satan-prince-of-this-world-carr-1966/page/341/mode/1up
Chapter 13 How the Conspiracy was Developed in America
“There were, as recently as 1957, in the Rittenhouse Square Library in Philadelphia, three letters writ¬ ten by John Quincy Adams, the 6th President of the United States, to Col. Wm. Lucifer. Stone, a Knight Templar and editor of The New York Advertiser. These letters were very critical of Thomas Jefferson and the manner in which he had subverted Freemasonry in the New England states. Adams knew of what he was writing, because he had been mainly responsible for organizing the Lodges into which Jefferson infiltrated his Illuminati. Adams gives as his reason for running against Jefferson for the presidency, Jefferson’s subversiveness. The letters he wrote Col. Stone are credited with defeating Jefferson. Adams listed five main objections to Illuminism as being proselyted by Jefferson and his fellow Illuminists:
Albert pike and the Palladian rite are above the 33rd degree and once you read Albert pikes writings you understand that it is all about lucifarianism.
Helena Blavatsky and Alice Bailey are also big contributors to the modern day illuminist lodges you call freemasonry.
I’m sorry but you are a useful idiot inside a masons lodge at this point in time and that’s all you’ll ever amount to being a member.
That's funny because every 33rd+ degree former or current Freemason would tell you differently. You can't be a "Christian" and serve at the able of Mammon; the Bible states it clearly that you can't serve two masters.
You are deluded if you think Christ would allow his followers to take open paths in the dark and engage in satanic ritualistic rites that are designed to subvert and destroy Jesus Christ.
i mean i read through some handbooks and the human sacrifices started at like the 8th degree.
maybe those werent the original books. all i'm saying is that i can see both sides, and i know the history is complicated. will continue to reserve judgement. not about to doubt the patriotism of you or your masonry buddies. but pyramid structure, compartmentalized organizations are inherently mysterious by design. just as easy to hide good acts in as they are to hide evil acts. i just can't say.
or maybe its one of those holographic things, where you experience the version you expect to. i find many things are, which is why i try not to doom...