Once the society removes God from His rightful place, evil quickly takes its place as the predominate influencer. I have seen this transformation take place in my life time.
I think that is what it appears to believers but only in the absence of widespread enlightenment. We can go infinitely far beyond the superstitious, contradictory and manipulative beliefs of the bible with natural human morality and the unlimited potential power of our minds.
What are you even talking about. Humans by nature are murderous, selfish beings.
Society as it exists currently in the west is still at the core built on a christian moral framework. Murder and theft being wrong or helping others are not natural moral positions. Survival of the fittest is the natural state, meaning the weak would be cast aside and left to die like we see in the animal world.
Without god, morality becomes relative and subjective. Meaning if someone believes it's moral to kill you and take what you have, who would be able to say that their morality isn't valid, and by what standard?
I think atheists and godless people fail to realize this. Without a biblical moral framework, child sacrifice, pedophilia, murder...any kind of depraved act would fall under subjective morality.
I think it is absolutely bizarre to claim religion prevents people from child sacrifice, murder and pedophilia. As far as I can see it certainly appears to be exactly the opposite.
How so? Our laws make these things illegal. There will always be evil people who do these things, the difference is the status quo and agreed upon moral standards condemn them. And do you really think those that perpetrate these acts are pious or god-fearing?
Take for example musician Tim Lambesis. He hired a hitman to murder his wife and did some time in prison. He was once a devout Christian who lost faith. He stated that once he was an atheist he saw nothing wrong with murdering his wife because there was no such thing as morality in his mind.
Also every Communist genocide has been acted out by a secular government that abolished God.
Once the society removes God from His rightful place, evil quickly takes its place as the predominate influencer. I have seen this transformation take place in my life time.
I think that is what it appears to believers but only in the absence of widespread enlightenment. We can go infinitely far beyond the superstitious, contradictory and manipulative beliefs of the bible with natural human morality and the unlimited potential power of our minds.
"Natural human morality"
What are you even talking about. Humans by nature are murderous, selfish beings. Society as it exists currently in the west is still at the core built on a christian moral framework. Murder and theft being wrong or helping others are not natural moral positions. Survival of the fittest is the natural state, meaning the weak would be cast aside and left to die like we see in the animal world.
Without god, morality becomes relative and subjective. Meaning if someone believes it's moral to kill you and take what you have, who would be able to say that their morality isn't valid, and by what standard?
I think atheists and godless people fail to realize this. Without a biblical moral framework, child sacrifice, pedophilia, murder...any kind of depraved act would fall under subjective morality.
I think it is absolutely bizarre to claim religion prevents people from child sacrifice, murder and pedophilia. As far as I can see it certainly appears to be exactly the opposite.
How so? Our laws make these things illegal. There will always be evil people who do these things, the difference is the status quo and agreed upon moral standards condemn them. And do you really think those that perpetrate these acts are pious or god-fearing?
Take for example musician Tim Lambesis. He hired a hitman to murder his wife and did some time in prison. He was once a devout Christian who lost faith. He stated that once he was an atheist he saw nothing wrong with murdering his wife because there was no such thing as morality in his mind.
Also every Communist genocide has been acted out by a secular government that abolished God.