I don't understand what you are getting at, young_patriot said whites cant be from the mid east so addressed that, now youre arguing when fair skin and eyes developed.
I can't speak to when whiite skin and blue eyes began but I know the Nords also come from the same people that entered into Europe from the Caucusus mountains around 600 BC.
I used the word 'we' as a general term as we Europeans. I'm white skin and blue eyes and I'm not Nordic and my ancestors most likely came to the British Isles from the Mediterranean culture, different from the Keltoi people.
I was only trying to point out that light skin and blue eyes have developed among separate populations at separate times. Therefore "we" ("people with white skin and blue eyes") did not all "come from" there.
I understand your point now, are you Nordic or a descendant of Nordic people? We must of had a distant ancestor, but it could of progressed separately.
Where have you found that the Nords have come from? How did they get to Europe? Which migration event in to Europe? They didn't grow there, so how did they get there? When? Where from?
"Nords also come from the same people that entered into Europe from the Caucusus mountains around 600 BC."
Light skinned blue eyed remains have been found in Sweden dating back ~8000 years if I'm not mistaken. How could they have come from people who "entered" Europe in 500-600BC? I suppose you did say thay secularists say 8000 years so you are going from your personal beliefs.
I truly do not know where my ancestors are from, but based on the fact that I had almost white blond hair as a youth but now have a beard with blond, brown, black, red and brown hair in it (and brown eyes) I assume that I am just a bit of a mutt. Definitely a decent amount of neanderthal in me lol. Scottish and British heritage as far as I do know. Canadians for 4-5 generations.
Anyway, you're clearly more well versed on this topic than I am, and I did not intend to come off as argumentative. Cheers.
You might be right, i've been looking at the nordic haplogroup they are R1a slightly different to the R1b majority. The slavic peoples (east Europe to Russia) are also R1a, whether they were hunter gathers that traversed the northern areas from Scandanavia to Russia separately.
I'm the same I was born with blonde hair but it darkened to brown as I got older. My brother kept his blonde hair though. We're a mixture of Scottish and Irish, no doubt some viking blood in there somewhere.
Have you looked at your family lineage back to Scotland as a lot of Canadians can trace back to the Highland clearances.
I apologise if I came of as argumentative, I get that way sometimes when I get carried away with things, I don't notice sometimes. I did not think you were argumentative in the slightest fren. 👍
I don't understand what you are getting at, young_patriot said whites cant be from the mid east so addressed that, now youre arguing when fair skin and eyes developed.
I can't speak to when whiite skin and blue eyes began but I know the Nords also come from the same people that entered into Europe from the Caucusus mountains around 600 BC.
I used the word 'we' as a general term as we Europeans. I'm white skin and blue eyes and I'm not Nordic and my ancestors most likely came to the British Isles from the Mediterranean culture, different from the Keltoi people.
I was only trying to point out that light skin and blue eyes have developed among separate populations at separate times. Therefore "we" ("people with white skin and blue eyes") did not all "come from" there.
I understand your point now, are you Nordic or a descendant of Nordic people? We must of had a distant ancestor, but it could of progressed separately.
Where have you found that the Nords have come from? How did they get to Europe? Which migration event in to Europe? They didn't grow there, so how did they get there? When? Where from?
"Nords also come from the same people that entered into Europe from the Caucusus mountains around 600 BC."
Light skinned blue eyed remains have been found in Sweden dating back ~8000 years if I'm not mistaken. How could they have come from people who "entered" Europe in 500-600BC? I suppose you did say thay secularists say 8000 years so you are going from your personal beliefs.
I truly do not know where my ancestors are from, but based on the fact that I had almost white blond hair as a youth but now have a beard with blond, brown, black, red and brown hair in it (and brown eyes) I assume that I am just a bit of a mutt. Definitely a decent amount of neanderthal in me lol. Scottish and British heritage as far as I do know. Canadians for 4-5 generations.
Anyway, you're clearly more well versed on this topic than I am, and I did not intend to come off as argumentative. Cheers.
You might be right, i've been looking at the nordic haplogroup they are R1a slightly different to the R1b majority. The slavic peoples (east Europe to Russia) are also R1a, whether they were hunter gathers that traversed the northern areas from Scandanavia to Russia separately.
I'm the same I was born with blonde hair but it darkened to brown as I got older. My brother kept his blonde hair though. We're a mixture of Scottish and Irish, no doubt some viking blood in there somewhere.
Have you looked at your family lineage back to Scotland as a lot of Canadians can trace back to the Highland clearances.
I apologise if I came of as argumentative, I get that way sometimes when I get carried away with things, I don't notice sometimes. I did not think you were argumentative in the slightest fren. 👍