indeed, and I think that's why so many normies reject this sort of thing as conspiracy stories. Because it's just too horrible for them to accept and believe. Thanks for the further info. I was going to ask you if they got Cathy's daughter out, but when I read on I saw that it is unknown. I pray they got her and ALL the victims out of that evil. And I don't know how they'll ever have a chance at a normal life, unless they find God. I think I will pass on that other woman's story, but your info has helped me have a better picture of the C O'B story. One wonders how she's even still alive. Thanks.