Israel First!!!!! L'Chaim!
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That's always the case.
Israel will have their friends who own the FED print us some more money.
Those who bless Israel will be blessed. Those who course Israel will be cursed. You can choose to believe it or disbelieve it. If it's true, disbelieving it won't change it. Sidenote: the fact that corruption exists in Israeli government doesn't make all Jews or Israeli govt officials corrupt anymore than corruption in American govt makes all Americans or American govt officials corrupt. The good guys there want the bad guys out just as much as we do here. Keeping Iran at bay is good for America. We are their next intended target. This administration has already empowered Iran immensely. I'm not a fan of being the world's police force let alone the cost it incurs, but sometimes, none of the potential options is great. I also do happen to believe in what I originally stated. Spiritual principles do ultimately supercede human reasoning and logic. Praying for Israel costs us no money and will accomplish heaps more than remaining in a "talk about it" mode. Maybe it will even save us a little money and save some lives in the long run. You never know. 🙂 it's what you would want someone to do for you.
I don't think we will be blessed for giving approval to these people as they commit murders.
Paul seems to later think it was a sin that he gave silent approval as the Jews murdered Stephan. I would think it is the same for us if we give approval when they murder innocent people.
In John 8:37-47, Jesus says that while they are physical decedents of Abraham, their father is Satan because they are murderers and refused to believe the Truth like Abraham did.
Because of Jesus' sacrifice for us, the blessings of Abraham now apply to every person who believes in him: Galatians 3:26-29 "You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise."
Although, I do agree generally with the scriptural points that you've made, I don't believe that Romans supports replacement theology. I quoted Scripture to support some of the reasons why I believe that. God said through the prophets that they would be blinded, but He did not say that He would replace them. A more in depth reading of Paul's teaching on the subject points away from that. As for Israel murdering innocent people, I am inferring that you are referring to what is taking place in Gaza. Are you saying like some that October 7th wasn't a brutal massacre of their own people by Hamas? I'm not looking to put words in your mouth. Please help me understand why you're making this assertion. I've followed this quite a bit from various perspectives. That may not prevent me from having a bias, but it would take evidence for me to change my mind.
I don't know exactly what replacement theology entails, but I probably say yes or mostly yes.
I was talking about Gaza. Israel stood down for 7 hours to allow HAMAS to carry out the attack. So the attack was at least a joint attack by HAMAS and IDF. Like Pearly Harbor.
But I don't think HAMAS would have been so stupid as to ride across that well defended boarder if they weren't told before hand that Israel would stand down and let them do it.
Also, bear in mind that they had construction plans for a canal through Gaza already draw up before the Gaza massacre.
One of my first thoughts when I heard about the occurrences of Oct 7 was the same as yours--that this could be a Pearl Harbor event. It wouldn't be hard to make a case for that. I've given a lot of thought to this. Here are a few thoughts to the contrary. They aren't proof, but are perhaps worthy of consideration. -We shouldn't assume that it was a Pearl Harbor event. Other explanations may be possible. -Israel is the only country that requires an Iron Dome and bomb shelter in every home to protect its citizens from missile attacks all year round. We seem to take this for granted, almost as if this makes this fact of life for them okay. Not saying that we would say it's okay, just that we may subconsciously not give it much thought. -There was a report early on that troops had been diverted to the West Bank because of an alleged heightened security that there. -Is it possible that someone wishing to do Israel harm has managed to infiltrate the government in such a way that they were able to mislead the decision makers? Twenty percent of the population is Arab/Muslim and they hold,I believe, about 20% of positions in government, the courts, etc. Most are probably loyal, but it doesn't take many to deal a blow off they are in the right position(s). -I don't know if you believe that prophecy is for today.I do and I follow the modern prophetic community. Many have a track record of fulfilled prophecy. The rate of fulfillment is increasing as time goes on. It has been prophesied that this was the work of a traitor and also that corruption in Israel's govt will be exposed and dealt with and that it will reveal ties of corruption to our own govt which will then be dealt with together with DJT. Time will tell. -Gaza could have a thriving, independent economy. It doesn't despite the many billions of dollars poured into it by the rest of the world. They have used those funds to build a highly sophisticated tunnel system, rocket launch sites on hospitals, schools, near amusement parks and other civilian locations, munitions factories underground, and more. Arms and munitions abound anywhere in homes, hospitals, etc. They can literally move from one place to another and pick up arms anywhere they go. The tunnels extend underneath the border into Israel and they have used them to attack Israelis. -They have been equipping and training for an event like this for years. One of their leaders has said that Allah is with them in this and that they will do this 'up to a million times" if necessary. Whatever Israel's faults, is important to think about what it would be like to live next door to an event like that that is funded by the entire world through the UN, Iran, and even the current administration. Israelis are not worse human beings than Americans. They're normal people just like us. If you were there, would you be conscientiously objecting or would you be signing up to fight if you could? -Children are trained from youth, including in the schools that Jews are evil, not human, and worthy of death. Summer camp for them consists of military training with actual weapons. I've watched interviews with 8-10yo boys in full military garb and armed doing the army crawl through the streets who said they would absolutely stab a Jew, drive a vehicle and ram it into them. They would die for this cause. -The atrocities, attested to with video footage and the eye witness testimony are as bad as if not worse than anything I've ever read about from the Holocaust and I've read and listened to a lot of WWII testimony. If it wasn't October 7th, it was their intention to do this and much worse to Israel at the first opportunity. -There is so much more that I could say. My personal experience as someone who grew up between the American and European cultures of my parents is that you cannot blindly trust what a radical Muslim tells you. Some deeply cultural Muslims can be deceptive and manipulative.i work very hard not to judge an individual, but I have seen this enough to be mindful.
I would think if Israel had traitors in their military at high enough levels to order the stand down and maintain it for 7 hours, they would have gone after the traitors, not Palestinian civilians.
Who is reporting a 7 hour stand down? That's a really serious assertion. I'm willing to believe it, if true. This world is too full of evil for me to say it absolutely couldn't be. What/who was the source?
Here is one: https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1713344613409313003
One of the Badlands hosts was also saying they had a couple Jews at their GART conference and one of them was a former soldier who claimed to know that exact location. They said there was absolutely no way something like that would make it across. It is too long ago for me to remember which show said it.
I also know a guy who went to Israel last year. He was saying on some highways, where there is risk, they had a rifle trained on him whole time. And he did not go through as hot a boarder as Gaza.
Revelation 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie — behold, I will make them to come and worship at thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Revelation 2:9 - I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
1 Thessalonians 2:15 - For some of the Jews killed the prophets, and some even killed the Lord Jesus. Now they have persecuted us, too. They fail to please God and work against all humanity
Matthew 27:25 - And all the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!”
Zechariah 14:2 - For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished. And half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
You can choose to believe it or disbelieve it.
Zech 12:10-And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. Jews who've come to Christ have taken about experiencing a prolonged weeping. I believe this scripture is unfulfilled and points to a large scale turning.
Rom 11:25-26- I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. Rom 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. Rom 2:9-10- There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. Greek word for first is proton. "Proton’ can also mean first as in particularly, especially, or in prominence… We would argue that it is this sense in which Paul writes about the Jew being first. The gospel is particularly and especially for the Jew – and also for the Gentile."* Rom 11 has much to say on this, among other things, warning us to "not be haughty, but fear." V 28-29 say: As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the forefathers, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
There will be Jews who are a part of this synagogue of Satan. There will be gentiles who are equally evil. They are not more prone to sin, blindness, deafness, or evil than we are. Let's stay humble before the Lord remembering our own weakness and fallibility and pray for the peace of Jerusalem. *For your consideration: https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-based-teaching-from-israel/to-the-jew-first-what-does-it-mean-and-why-does-it-matter/
That a great selection of verses.
I wasn't aware of 1 Thessalonians 2:15. That really sums up what is happening today, both to Middle Eastern and Western countries and the Christians in them.
Thank you for posting that.
You're welcome
That promise in Genesis 12:3 was made to Abram, not all of Israel. There was no Israel at the time. I don't disagree with all you said here, but superstition isn't going to help anything.
I can't possibly read Gen 12:3 the way that you do. It's part of a larger statement, not an isolated sentence for one thing. He promises to make Abraham a great nation. That includes his offspring. How can God possibly make his name great and make him a blessing apart from his descendants? God also says that in him ALL FAMILIES will be blessed. Surely, God hasn't decided to exclude Israel, his own treasured people. In order for Messiah to come forth, there first had to be the people and nation of Israel who He delivered time and time again. He hasn't abandoned or replaced Israel. They are blinded for a time until the full number of the gentles has come in. Paul specifically says that he does not want us to be ignorant least we be wise in our own opinion. (Rom 11:25) In Romans 12:16, he instructs that we not be wise in it own opinion. I believe that a careful reading of Romans 11 supports this view.
I'll have to let it go. I don't want to argue about it especially when I agree with you on so much of it. You be careful too lest you be found ignorant or wise in your own opinion.
10 missiles @ 100M/per ?
That sounds like an excessive estimate to me. We need sauce on this rather than jumping to conclusions.
Just supposing the math given the reports above.
Gotcha. You appeared to be questioning the figures given which is what I had in mind when I posted.
I agree fellow white person!
Not sure why you're assuming my race, lol!😂