Oh yeah he definitely won, I'm not disputing that, he just didn't "win".

Honestly even that may turn out to be for the best, because it exposed so many avenues of how "they" cheat, not to mention how many people are now aware of that aspect of the corruption.

Of course, me saying "for the best" is with the context of my belief that in the long term, Biden being in office is beneficial for the nation due to how much of a wake-up call it is for the sleepers. Assuming patriots are in fact in control and Trump or a trumplike figure gets back in office to finish the cleanup that can only come from government, we can fix this nation for the next several decades, hopefully longer.