The crazy thing is, the Bible doesn't even say to protect Israel. God says he will remove them from the land because their gods are Moloch and Rephan (who is the star idol is associated with).
It even calls them out:
1 Thessalonians 2:15-16 - " who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men, hindering us from telling the Gentiles how they may be saved. As a result, they continue to heap up their sins to full capacity; the utmost wrath has come upon them."
Yeah, but it was more than one person in the conversation that agreed and had Bible quotes to back up their beliefs. Thank you for this I'm sure it'll come up in conversation again, it would be nice to have them understand this so things don't hit them so hard.
I have heard some people who were lead astray brining up this verse:
Genesis 12:3 "And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."
The unbelieving Jews are physical descendants of Abraham (John 8:37), but they are, sort of, not the true children of Abraham, because they do not have the faith of Abraham (John 8:39).
The true seed of Abraham, and the people to whom the promises belong, are everyone who has believed in Jesus Christ.
Galatians 3:26-29 "For you are all sons and daughters of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise."
Also worth noting is that the Apostle Paul considers it among his sins that he gave silent approval as the Jews stoned the Christian, Stephan. A lot of Christians now are being tricked into not only giving silent, but vocal approval as the Jews murder Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian and ect Christians.
Thank you for this. The situation over there is so complex, because of lies we were raised with.
People will back Israel because they boiled down very complicated well crafted lie to so one simpler understanding, God wants me to support Israel so I will.
I was the sorta same way too, I was happy when PDJT moved the embassy to Jerusalem, Them Bibi forced the jab on everyone there, made start to wonder.
I don't understand it fully yet, I believe everything I think I know is probably a lie so while I'm vocal about not supporting their war there, but I see people struggling with what's going on and going against their national repulsion and supporting Israel because they believe that's what God wants. This is an insanely sad time.
The crazy thing is, the Bible doesn't even say to protect Israel. God says he will remove them from the land because their gods are Moloch and Rephan (who is the star idol is associated with).
It even calls them out:
1 Thessalonians 2:15-16 - " who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men, hindering us from telling the Gentiles how they may be saved. As a result, they continue to heap up their sins to full capacity; the utmost wrath has come upon them."
Yeah, but it was more than one person in the conversation that agreed and had Bible quotes to back up their beliefs. Thank you for this I'm sure it'll come up in conversation again, it would be nice to have them understand this so things don't hit them so hard.
I have heard some people who were lead astray brining up this verse: Genesis 12:3 "And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."
The unbelieving Jews are physical descendants of Abraham (John 8:37), but they are, sort of, not the true children of Abraham, because they do not have the faith of Abraham (John 8:39).
The true seed of Abraham, and the people to whom the promises belong, are everyone who has believed in Jesus Christ. Galatians 3:26-29 "For you are all sons and daughters of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise."
Also worth noting is that the Apostle Paul considers it among his sins that he gave silent approval as the Jews stoned the Christian, Stephan. A lot of Christians now are being tricked into not only giving silent, but vocal approval as the Jews murder Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian and ect Christians.
Thank you for this. The situation over there is so complex, because of lies we were raised with.
People will back Israel because they boiled down very complicated well crafted lie to so one simpler understanding, God wants me to support Israel so I will.
I was the sorta same way too, I was happy when PDJT moved the embassy to Jerusalem, Them Bibi forced the jab on everyone there, made start to wonder.
I don't understand it fully yet, I believe everything I think I know is probably a lie so while I'm vocal about not supporting their war there, but I see people struggling with what's going on and going against their national repulsion and supporting Israel because they believe that's what God wants. This is an insanely sad time.