Notable estimate attempts include the following:[60]
In 1993, Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, wrote that "the failed effort to build communism in the twentieth century consumed the lives of almost 60,000,000."[61]
In 1994, Rummel's book Death by Government included about 110 million people, foreign and domestic, killed by communist democide from 1900 to 1987.[62] This total excluded deaths from the Great Chinese Famine of 1958–1961 due to Rummel's then belief that "although Mao's policies were responsible for the famine, he was misled about it, and finally when he found out, he stopped it and changed his policies."[63][64] Rummel would later revise his estimate from
110 million to about 148 million due to additional information about Mao's culpability in the Great Chinese Famine from Mao: The Unknown Story, including Jon Halliday and Jung Chang's estimated 38 million famine deaths.[63][64]
In 2004, historian Tomislav Dulić criticized Rummel's estimate of the number killed in Tito's Yugoslavia as an overestimation based on the inclusion of low-quality sources, and stated that Rummel's other estimates may suffer from the same problem if he used similar sources for them.[65] Rummel responded with a critique of Dulić's analysis.[66] Karlsson says that Rummel's thesis of "extreme intentionality in Mao" for the famine is "hardly an example of a serious and empirically-based writing of history",[67] and describes Rummel's 61,911,000 estimate for the Soviet Union as being based on "an ideological preunderstanding and speculative and sweeping calculations".[68]
In 1997, historian Stéphane Courtois's introduction to The Black Book of Communism, an impactful yet controversial[55] work written about the history of communism in the 20th century,[69] gave a "rough approximation, based on unofficial estimates". The subtotals listed by Courtois added up to 94.36 million killed.[70] Nicolas Werth and Jean-Louis Margolin, contributing authors to the book, criticized Courtois as obsessed with reaching a 100 million overall total.[71]
In his foreword to the 1999 English edition, Martin Malia wrote that "a grand total of victims variously estimated by contributors to the volume at between 85 million and 100 million."[72] Historian Michael David-Fox states that Malia is able to link disparate regimes, from radical Soviet industrialists to the anti-urbanists of the Khmer Rouge, under the guise of a "generic communism" category "defined everywhere down to the common denominator of party movements founded by intellectuals."[73] Courtois' attempt to equate Nazism and communist regimes was not fruitful on both scientific and moral grounds, because such comparisons are generally controversial.[74]
In 2005, professor Benjamin Valentino stated that the number of non-combatants killed by communist regimes in the Soviet Union, China, and Cambodia alone ranged from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[75]
In 2010, professor of economics Steven Rosefielde wrote in Red Holocaust that the internal contradictions of communist regimes caused the killing of approximately 60 million people and perhaps tens of millions more.[76]
In 2012, academic Alex J. Bellamy wrote that a "conservative estimate puts the total number of civilians deliberately killed by communists after the Second World War between 6.7 million and 15.5 million people, with the true figure probably much higher."[77]
In 2014, professor of Chinese politics Julia Strauss wrote that while there was the beginning of a scholarly consensus on figures of around 20 million killed in the Soviet Union and 2–3 million in Cambodia, there was no such consensus on numbers for China.[78]
In 2017, historian Stephen Kotkin wrote in The Wall Street Journal that 65 million people died prematurely under communist regimes according to demographers, and those deaths were a result of "mass deportations, forced labor camps and police-state terror" but mostly "from starvation as a result of its cruel projects of social engineering."[79][80]
The May 19th Communist Organization and the Days of Rage, which occurred during the late 1960s and early 1970s in the United States, drew some inspiration from earlier communist movements, including the German Communist Party (KPD) of the post-World War I era.
May 19th Communist Organization
Overview:
The May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO) was a far-left militant group active in the United States from 1978 to the mid-1980s. It evolved from the Weather Underground Organization (WUO) and was named after the shared birthday of Malcolm X and Ho Chi Minh.
M19CO was involved in armed robberies, prison breaks, and bombings, with the aim of overthrowing the U.S. government and establishing a socialist state.
Similarities to the KPD:
Revolutionary Ideology: Both M19CO and the KPD were driven by Marxist-Leninist ideology and sought to establish a socialist state through revolutionary means.
Use of Violence: Both organizations embraced violence as a tool for achieving their political goals. The KPD engaged in armed uprisings and street battles, while M19CO carried out bombings and armed robberies.
Opposition to the State: Both groups viewed the existing government as illegitimate and oppressive. The KPD sought to overthrow the Weimar Republic, while M19CO aimed to dismantle the U.S. capitalist system.
Days of Rage
Overview:
The Days of Rage were a series of protests organized by the Weather Underground Organization in October 1969 in Chicago, aimed at confronting the U.S. government and raising awareness of the anti-war and anti-racist movements.
The protests involved violent clashes with the police, property destruction, and attempts to bring attention to the radical left's causes.
Similarities to the KPD:
Direct Action: Both the Days of Rage and the KPD's activities involved direct, confrontational tactics. The KPD engaged in street battles and uprisings, while the Days of Rage saw militants smashing windows, vandalizing property, and clashing with police.
Anti-Government Stance: Both movements were staunchly anti-government. The KPD opposed the Weimar Republic, while the Days of Rage aimed to protest against U.S. government policies, particularly the Vietnam War.
Youth and Militancy: Both movements were characterized by the involvement of young, radical activists willing to use militant tactics to achieve their goals.
Black Lives Matter (BLM), the May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO), Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), and the Days of Rage share certain ideological and historical connections, primarily through the individuals involved and their approaches to activism. Here’s how BLM, particularly through its connections to Thousand Currents and Susan Rosenberg, relates to these earlier movements:
Black Lives Matter (BLM)
Overview:
BLM is a contemporary social movement founded in 2013 to address systemic racism, police brutality, and racial inequality.
The movement uses various tactics, including protests, advocacy, and policy reform efforts, to achieve its goals.
Connections to Thousand Currents and Susan Rosenberg
Thousand Currents:
Thousand Currents is a nonprofit organization that provided fiscal sponsorship to the BLM Global Network Foundation. This means they managed the funds and donations for BLM, allowing it to operate more effectively.
Susan Rosenberg:
Susan Rosenberg, a board member of Thousand Currents until 2020, was a former member of the M19CO. She was convicted for her involvement in illegal activities, including a weapons possession charge and connection to armed robberies, and later received a commutation of her sentence by President Bill Clinton.
Historical and Ideological Links
May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO)
Overview: M19CO was a militant far-left group active in the 1970s and 1980s, known for its revolutionary activities, including bombings and armed robberies.
Connection: Susan Rosenberg’s involvement with M19CO ties her directly to BLM through her later role at Thousand Currents.
Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and Days of Rage
Overview: SDS was a prominent student activist organization in the 1960s that focused on civil rights, anti-war protests, and social justice. The Days of Rage was a series of protests organized by a militant faction of SDS, the Weather Underground, in 1969.
Connection: SDS and the Weather Underground's tactics and philosophies influenced later movements, including M19CO. The radical elements within SDS and the Weather Underground, particularly their use of direct action and confrontation, set a precedent for later groups like M19CO and, by extension, influenced individuals like Susan Rosenberg.
Antifa, short for "anti-fascist," and the German Communist Party (KPD) share historical and ideological roots, particularly in their opposition to fascism.
Historical Context and Origins
German Communist Party (KPD)
Origins: The KPD was founded in 1918-1919 in Germany, emerging from the Spartacist League. It aimed to establish a communist state in Germany, inspired by the Russian Revolution.
Origins: The term "Antifa" originated from "Antifaschistische Aktion," a militant anti-fascist group founded by the KPD in 1932. This group was established to combat the Nazi Party and other far-right movements in Germany.
Activities: Antifaschistische Aktion engaged in street battles, propaganda, and other direct actions to oppose the Nazis. The group was dissolved after the Nazis came to power in 1933 and banned all communist organizations.
This all came from u/GQD_ trying to convince me that Q was saying the Jews/Commies are the good guys and that Antifa was part of the Nazi World Order taking over the world. I made this thread for them to make their argument, but I guess they were not interested.
It all started in this thread with him trying to convince me "not all jews"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
Notable estimate attempts include the following:[60]
In 1993, Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, wrote that "the failed effort to build communism in the twentieth century consumed the lives of almost 60,000,000."[61]
In 1994, Rummel's book Death by Government included about 110 million people, foreign and domestic, killed by communist democide from 1900 to 1987.[62] This total excluded deaths from the Great Chinese Famine of 1958–1961 due to Rummel's then belief that "although Mao's policies were responsible for the famine, he was misled about it, and finally when he found out, he stopped it and changed his policies."[63][64] Rummel would later revise his estimate from 110 million to about 148 million due to additional information about Mao's culpability in the Great Chinese Famine from Mao: The Unknown Story, including Jon Halliday and Jung Chang's estimated 38 million famine deaths.[63][64]
In 2004, historian Tomislav Dulić criticized Rummel's estimate of the number killed in Tito's Yugoslavia as an overestimation based on the inclusion of low-quality sources, and stated that Rummel's other estimates may suffer from the same problem if he used similar sources for them.[65] Rummel responded with a critique of Dulić's analysis.[66] Karlsson says that Rummel's thesis of "extreme intentionality in Mao" for the famine is "hardly an example of a serious and empirically-based writing of history",[67] and describes Rummel's 61,911,000 estimate for the Soviet Union as being based on "an ideological preunderstanding and speculative and sweeping calculations".[68]
In 1997, historian Stéphane Courtois's introduction to The Black Book of Communism, an impactful yet controversial[55] work written about the history of communism in the 20th century,[69] gave a "rough approximation, based on unofficial estimates". The subtotals listed by Courtois added up to 94.36 million killed.[70] Nicolas Werth and Jean-Louis Margolin, contributing authors to the book, criticized Courtois as obsessed with reaching a 100 million overall total.[71] In his foreword to the 1999 English edition, Martin Malia wrote that "a grand total of victims variously estimated by contributors to the volume at between 85 million and 100 million."[72] Historian Michael David-Fox states that Malia is able to link disparate regimes, from radical Soviet industrialists to the anti-urbanists of the Khmer Rouge, under the guise of a "generic communism" category "defined everywhere down to the common denominator of party movements founded by intellectuals."[73] Courtois' attempt to equate Nazism and communist regimes was not fruitful on both scientific and moral grounds, because such comparisons are generally controversial.[74]
In 2005, professor Benjamin Valentino stated that the number of non-combatants killed by communist regimes in the Soviet Union, China, and Cambodia alone ranged from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[75] In 2010, professor of economics Steven Rosefielde wrote in Red Holocaust that the internal contradictions of communist regimes caused the killing of approximately 60 million people and perhaps tens of millions more.[76]
In 2012, academic Alex J. Bellamy wrote that a "conservative estimate puts the total number of civilians deliberately killed by communists after the Second World War between 6.7 million and 15.5 million people, with the true figure probably much higher."[77]
In 2014, professor of Chinese politics Julia Strauss wrote that while there was the beginning of a scholarly consensus on figures of around 20 million killed in the Soviet Union and 2–3 million in Cambodia, there was no such consensus on numbers for China.[78]
In 2017, historian Stephen Kotkin wrote in The Wall Street Journal that 65 million people died prematurely under communist regimes according to demographers, and those deaths were a result of "mass deportations, forced labor camps and police-state terror" but mostly "from starvation as a result of its cruel projects of social engineering."[79][80]
The May 19th Communist Organization and the Days of Rage, which occurred during the late 1960s and early 1970s in the United States, drew some inspiration from earlier communist movements, including the German Communist Party (KPD) of the post-World War I era.
May 19th Communist Organization
Overview:
The May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO) was a far-left militant group active in the United States from 1978 to the mid-1980s. It evolved from the Weather Underground Organization (WUO) and was named after the shared birthday of Malcolm X and Ho Chi Minh.
M19CO was involved in armed robberies, prison breaks, and bombings, with the aim of overthrowing the U.S. government and establishing a socialist state. Similarities to the KPD:
Revolutionary Ideology: Both M19CO and the KPD were driven by Marxist-Leninist ideology and sought to establish a socialist state through revolutionary means.
Use of Violence: Both organizations embraced violence as a tool for achieving their political goals. The KPD engaged in armed uprisings and street battles, while M19CO carried out bombings and armed robberies.
Opposition to the State: Both groups viewed the existing government as illegitimate and oppressive. The KPD sought to overthrow the Weimar Republic, while M19CO aimed to dismantle the U.S. capitalist system.
Days of Rage
Overview:
The Days of Rage were a series of protests organized by the Weather Underground Organization in October 1969 in Chicago, aimed at confronting the U.S. government and raising awareness of the anti-war and anti-racist movements.
The protests involved violent clashes with the police, property destruction, and attempts to bring attention to the radical left's causes. Similarities to the KPD:
Direct Action: Both the Days of Rage and the KPD's activities involved direct, confrontational tactics. The KPD engaged in street battles and uprisings, while the Days of Rage saw militants smashing windows, vandalizing property, and clashing with police.
Anti-Government Stance: Both movements were staunchly anti-government. The KPD opposed the Weimar Republic, while the Days of Rage aimed to protest against U.S. government policies, particularly the Vietnam War. Youth and Militancy: Both movements were characterized by the involvement of young, radical activists willing to use militant tactics to achieve their goals.
Black Lives Matter (BLM), the May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO), Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), and the Days of Rage share certain ideological and historical connections, primarily through the individuals involved and their approaches to activism. Here’s how BLM, particularly through its connections to Thousand Currents and Susan Rosenberg, relates to these earlier movements:
Black Lives Matter (BLM)
Overview:
BLM is a contemporary social movement founded in 2013 to address systemic racism, police brutality, and racial inequality.
The movement uses various tactics, including protests, advocacy, and policy reform efforts, to achieve its goals.
Connections to Thousand Currents and Susan Rosenberg
Thousand Currents:
Thousand Currents is a nonprofit organization that provided fiscal sponsorship to the BLM Global Network Foundation. This means they managed the funds and donations for BLM, allowing it to operate more effectively.
Susan Rosenberg:
Susan Rosenberg, a board member of Thousand Currents until 2020, was a former member of the M19CO. She was convicted for her involvement in illegal activities, including a weapons possession charge and connection to armed robberies, and later received a commutation of her sentence by President Bill Clinton.
Historical and Ideological Links
May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO)
Overview: M19CO was a militant far-left group active in the 1970s and 1980s, known for its revolutionary activities, including bombings and armed robberies.
Connection: Susan Rosenberg’s involvement with M19CO ties her directly to BLM through her later role at Thousand Currents.
Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and Days of Rage
Overview: SDS was a prominent student activist organization in the 1960s that focused on civil rights, anti-war protests, and social justice. The Days of Rage was a series of protests organized by a militant faction of SDS, the Weather Underground, in 1969.
Connection: SDS and the Weather Underground's tactics and philosophies influenced later movements, including M19CO. The radical elements within SDS and the Weather Underground, particularly their use of direct action and confrontation, set a precedent for later groups like M19CO and, by extension, influenced individuals like Susan Rosenberg.
Antifa, short for "anti-fascist," and the German Communist Party (KPD) share historical and ideological roots, particularly in their opposition to fascism.
Historical Context and Origins German Communist Party (KPD)
Origins: The KPD was founded in 1918-1919 in Germany, emerging from the Spartacist League. It aimed to establish a communist state in Germany, inspired by the Russian Revolution.
Origins: The term "Antifa" originated from "Antifaschistische Aktion," a militant anti-fascist group founded by the KPD in 1932. This group was established to combat the Nazi Party and other far-right movements in Germany.
Activities: Antifaschistische Aktion engaged in street battles, propaganda, and other direct actions to oppose the Nazis. The group was dissolved after the Nazis came to power in 1933 and banned all communist organizations.
Spartacist uprising date
The Spartacist uprising, also known as the Spartacist uprising, took place from January 5 to January 12, 1919, in Berlin, Germany.
January 12 is eastern orthodox Christmas.
Jan 19th is Eastern Orthodox Epiphany
Jan 19 - Q - Remember THIS day.
MAY 19 + MAY 19 COMMUNIST ORG + BLM + IRAN PRESIDENT +TRIP CHANGE DELTAS
https://greatawakening.win/p/17t1tchkEl/may-19--may-19-communist-org--bl/c/
These commie uprising were put down, by very expirenced combat vets of ww1. It was a cakewalk for them.
We also have millions of very expirenced combat vets.....
This all came from u/GQD_ trying to convince me that Q was saying the Jews/Commies are the good guys and that Antifa was part of the Nazi World Order taking over the world. I made this thread for them to make their argument, but I guess they were not interested.
It all started in this thread with him trying to convince me "not all jews"
https://greatawakening.win/p/17t1tX2JGj/there-is-no-such-thing-as-duallo/c/
I m re-reading the gulag archipelago. That one book should be enough to refute that argument.
He wouldn't read it though.....
Trying to “convince” you not “all Jews?”
That’s the crux of your argument?
Again I go back to basic logic, DOES a baby being born into this world this very second even KNOW it’s Jewish?
Does Q not tell us WWG1WGA?