Let's start with "...facilitating the murder of an American citizen at the hands of the IDF."
How does the poster know that? It's much more likely that the Hamas captors started shooting prisoners... it's what they do.
Is Israel (or even America) supposed to sit back and do nothing when there are hostages?
And trying to negotiate for their release is most likely futile. Negotiations simply elevate Hamas to some stature way above their present "barbaric, inhumane thug" status.
I could go on, but I've made my point.
But if you prefer the weak approach, the do-nothing approach, then you do you, bub. Meanwhile, the serious people of this conflict will do what has to be done.
Is Israel (or even America) supposed to sit back and do nothing when there are hostages?
All I see is silence, and tacit support (and open support!) for the atrocity of hostage taking.
If the Palestinian public, and the rest of the muslim world cannot, or will not demand, or force the release of hostages, then they are simply asking to become victims of collateral damage. Tough shit for them.
They (the entirety of the muslim world) need to fix their fucked up, radical cultural problem that endorses and normalizes the atrocious behavior of taking hostages. No excuse for any civilized nation to condone hostage taking. It's that simple.
• If you take hostages: Get bombed and killed.
• if you do not do everything in your power to stop hostage taking, or free hostages: Risk getting bombed and killed as collateral damage caused by the actions of your neighbors.
• If your government is not doing everything in its power to end hostage practice, or release hostages: Risk getting bombed and killed as collateral damage caused by the lack of action from your governmental authorities.
It's the 21st century. Time for the muslim world to catch up with other civilized societies, and forever end the practice of hostage taking.
Let me also add that I have zero empathy for Hamas and their many Palestinian supporters. Any "innocent civilians" were most likely placed in harm's way by Hamas to hide behind.
Isreal is in an existential fight for its right to exist. There are no second place winners when it comes down to that.
Thank you for the prompt reply. My take is more along the lines of Hamas being a creature of the Israel state, that finance it. Hamas is playing its role in the eradication of all civilians in the Gaza strip. None of the IDF assaults have done any harm to Hamas, only civilians get killed. And Hamas could not care less.
You are entitled to your opinion, I guess we just fall on different sides of this. I respect your right to your opinion, we just approach it from different angles. Thanks for adding your input, though.
Islam has been raping and murdering since its inception. They were doing it over 1000 years before Gaza or the modern Israel state. They’ll keep doing it for a thousand more if the world lets them.
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil"(Isaiah 5:20) "You have wearied the Lord with your words, yet you say how have we wearied the Lord? When you say everyone that does evil is good in the sight of the Lord and He delighteth in them or where is the God of judgment" (Malachi 2:17). But God says, "And I know the blasphemy of them who say they are Jews and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Revelations 2:9) Not all who say they are Christians are Christians and not all that say they are Jews are Jews. We may fool some of the people some of the time, but God is not fooled at any time.
Understand this passage refers to jews as belivers. Christians have the same problem ie all the celebs and pollies pretend there christian when we know they aren't.
Four well fed hostages.
Genocidal apartheid israel is committing war crimes and showing the world what a monster it is.
Apartheid israel is near it's end. The world is isolating it, as they should such a psychopathic country.
Bullshit.
Please dont leave us hanging.If you could please elaborate.
Let's start with "...facilitating the murder of an American citizen at the hands of the IDF."
How does the poster know that? It's much more likely that the Hamas captors started shooting prisoners... it's what they do.
Is Israel (or even America) supposed to sit back and do nothing when there are hostages?
And trying to negotiate for their release is most likely futile. Negotiations simply elevate Hamas to some stature way above their present "barbaric, inhumane thug" status.
I could go on, but I've made my point.
But if you prefer the weak approach, the do-nothing approach, then you do you, bub. Meanwhile, the serious people of this conflict will do what has to be done.
Land grab?
More like "exterminate Hamas" at whatever the cost.
All I see is silence, and tacit support (and open support!) for the atrocity of hostage taking.
If the Palestinian public, and the rest of the muslim world cannot, or will not demand, or force the release of hostages, then they are simply asking to become victims of collateral damage. Tough shit for them.
They (the entirety of the muslim world) need to fix their fucked up, radical cultural problem that endorses and normalizes the atrocious behavior of taking hostages. No excuse for any civilized nation to condone hostage taking. It's that simple.
• If you take hostages: Get bombed and killed.
• if you do not do everything in your power to stop hostage taking, or free hostages: Risk getting bombed and killed as collateral damage caused by the actions of your neighbors.
• If your government is not doing everything in its power to end hostage practice, or release hostages: Risk getting bombed and killed as collateral damage caused by the lack of action from your governmental authorities.
It's the 21st century. Time for the muslim world to catch up with other civilized societies, and forever end the practice of hostage taking.
I couldn't have said it better.
Let me also add that I have zero empathy for Hamas and their many Palestinian supporters. Any "innocent civilians" were most likely placed in harm's way by Hamas to hide behind.
Isreal is in an existential fight for its right to exist. There are no second place winners when it comes down to that.
Thank you for the prompt reply. My take is more along the lines of Hamas being a creature of the Israel state, that finance it. Hamas is playing its role in the eradication of all civilians in the Gaza strip. None of the IDF assaults have done any harm to Hamas, only civilians get killed. And Hamas could not care less.
You are entitled to your opinion, I guess we just fall on different sides of this. I respect your right to your opinion, we just approach it from different angles. Thanks for adding your input, though.
Don't forget their Israeli political and intelligence supporters who facilitated the rise of Hamas in the first place.
So the victimhood game goes on, and on, and on . . .
Islam has been raping and murdering since its inception. They were doing it over 1000 years before Gaza or the modern Israel state. They’ll keep doing it for a thousand more if the world lets them.
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil"(Isaiah 5:20) "You have wearied the Lord with your words, yet you say how have we wearied the Lord? When you say everyone that does evil is good in the sight of the Lord and He delighteth in them or where is the God of judgment" (Malachi 2:17). But God says, "And I know the blasphemy of them who say they are Jews and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Revelations 2:9) Not all who say they are Christians are Christians and not all that say they are Jews are Jews. We may fool some of the people some of the time, but God is not fooled at any time.
Understand this passage refers to jews as belivers. Christians have the same problem ie all the celebs and pollies pretend there christian when we know they aren't.