I am not sure who keeps downvoting you, this is good discussion. And just to be clear I am not saying protestantism is the way to attain salvation either. Infact, I am against all forms of organised religion as far as spirituality is concerned. I found my own way to Jesus after being a lifelong atheist/agnostic, via Q, when I learnt exactly what got Jesus crucified.
As far as salvation is concerned, each person needs to find their own connection to Jesus and God.
But my point is the other aspect of Church - social control. Breaking that power structure away from a monopoly allowed weakening of that power, even though, like you correctly pointed out, Satanists albeit a different faction, managed to fill the vacuum left after Henry VIII created Church of England when they put Elizabeth on the throne.
This is actually the story of the Cabal all the way to Q. Each time a faction of Cabal turns against another faction, and the good folks have been manipulating it to the eventual Great Awakening we are at.
For example, in recent times, the whole of 1900s makes a lot of sense when you realise it was that everything that happened during that century is the result of the factional warfare between the Rothschilds and Rockefellers / Mossad vs CIA.
As far as Henry VIII, like I said, only real history will tell us how much of what Henry did was intentional vs accidental. I personally do not accept any great changes in history happened accidentally. Its quite possible but highly improbable that something as big as that happened purely so he could marry a girl whom he beheaded eventually anyways.
All that apart, I am curious to know what versus in Bible do you offer as proof that he Jesus and his Apostles instituted it? I hope you don't just say Isiah 22.
So here is my personal perspective. For 1,500 years there was just one church until the infamous German monk came around & edited the original bible, removing 7 books & adding words to justify his new theology. So one thing Protestants resist, reject or simply fail research is the Church's role in combating heresy, occult forces & secret societies centuries before they came along.
▪️Saint William of Norwich, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️saint Simon of Trent, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️Holy Child of Lagardia, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️14th Century, French Catholics execute the Knights Templar (forrunners to Freemasonry) for being Satanic gay bankers.
▪️15th Century, Catholic Authorities hunting down Lumbrosos (Illumaniti).
▪️1738. Pope Clement calls out Freemasons dead to rights & bans all Catholics from joining
Protestants sincerely believe that "true" Christianity began in 1517, but they fail to understand that their ongoing protest against the original Church further strengthen the Cabal & while weakening Christiandom (divide and conquer).
Lastly, analyze Martin Luthers crest looks EXACTLY like a Rosecrtian emblem. Is it too much of a stretch to contemplate the possibility that the "reformation" was a Cabal operation?
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Pontiff = Pontifex Maximus, leader of highest priestly order in Roman Empire.
After Julius Caesar the title became a prerogative of Roman Emperors, and they continued holding that title until it was passed to the Pope.
Pope Boniface VIII, publicly and on record, seated on the throne in Constantine, declared "I am Caesar" while adorned in imperial attire.
Knights Templar were created in 1119, nothing to do with Christianity, King Baldwin sent the recommendation to Pope to officially offer them a charter. They were running the worlds first major international banking for more than 200 years, acquiring immeasurable wealth and were used by the Christian kings as mercenaires before they were destroyed.
The reason for destroying the Templars was more to do with the political struggele between the Popes and King Phillip for France, and France being deeply in debt to the Templars (as is the end result of any usury) and wanting to take over the order which De Molay did not agree.
Of course when the Satanists throw one of their own under the bus they bring out the satanic crimes that everyone already knew. Just optics.
Ever wonder why so many old churches have spires on them? They represent exactly the same as the Washington Monument. The penis of Osiris. Because in the day they were Catholic Churches, in the night they were Satanic Churches.
There is so much we can keep digging into. And yes, like the criminals that FBI catches is 90% real criminals, but the remaining 10% are their real targets, and like how 90% of the FBI agents dont even know they are working for evil, the same is true for Catholic Church (and every other Satanic organisation).
The point is, Catholic Church was the facade the Satanic Roman Empire melted into when their power started crumbling, much like how the Nazis melted into the US Deep State after WW2.
Added: We cannot say the Catholic Church is the original church since there was no Catholic Church for 300 years after Jesus. So technically you can say its the first church but thats all.
Why do Protestant WASP Freemasons Larp as Catholic Knights templars? Look up the Knights Templar chapel in Alexandria, VA. The Templars were an honorable order until it was subverted by Gnostics.
Who executed the Templars? That's right, the Catholic Church. Who kicked out the Jew Bankers from France? Yup, Catholics.
Look up Knight Kadosh Masonic rite. They stab the Tripple Tiara (Pope) in effigy? Why? Because the Catholic Church the TRUE & ORIGINAL their enemy. The Pope Clement had them dead to rites in 1738 & banned Catholics from joining. Can you show me where your personal church has ever banned Masonry? Please provide proof.
The Judeo-masons were behind the "reformation" movement, Luther himself was influenced by the Kabbalah.
Look up the Keys of the Bastielle hanging in George Washington's house. The Satanic Freemasons double crossed the French Monarchy & Masons overthrew the Christian mobarch.
It would appear to be in the Catholic Church, is the only real church that the freemasons fear. Protestant WASP were okay being in bed with Judeo-Masons,kicking off revolutions around the world against Catholic lands but it would appear to me that Protestants have outlasted their usefulness & now the Jews are fooding your WASP countries, sending you guys off to war...again. Wasps must have never gotten the memo.
I never expect to convince anyone about the true nature of Catholic Church because for most people it is ultimately a question of belief and faith rather than objective fact, but I love these discussions.
However, I am interested in the objective facts - in this case the verses by Jesus that you believe establishes the Catholic Church, appoints the Pontiff and all outlines the various things preached by them as the only way of salvation.
Interestigly enough, Loyola was caught up in the Spanish Inquisition while the Church was hunting down the Illumaniti. A full century before the heretical Protestant sects began popup.
So, we both can be technically correct. The Church is the Original Church fighting the enemies of Jesus Christ & the Jesuits may have never actually been a good order.
I am not sure who keeps downvoting you, this is good discussion. And just to be clear I am not saying protestantism is the way to attain salvation either. Infact, I am against all forms of organised religion as far as spirituality is concerned. I found my own way to Jesus after being a lifelong atheist/agnostic, via Q, when I learnt exactly what got Jesus crucified.
As far as salvation is concerned, each person needs to find their own connection to Jesus and God.
But my point is the other aspect of Church - social control. Breaking that power structure away from a monopoly allowed weakening of that power, even though, like you correctly pointed out, Satanists albeit a different faction, managed to fill the vacuum left after Henry VIII created Church of England when they put Elizabeth on the throne.
This is actually the story of the Cabal all the way to Q. Each time a faction of Cabal turns against another faction, and the good folks have been manipulating it to the eventual Great Awakening we are at.
For example, in recent times, the whole of 1900s makes a lot of sense when you realise it was that everything that happened during that century is the result of the factional warfare between the Rothschilds and Rockefellers / Mossad vs CIA.
As far as Henry VIII, like I said, only real history will tell us how much of what Henry did was intentional vs accidental. I personally do not accept any great changes in history happened accidentally. Its quite possible but highly improbable that something as big as that happened purely so he could marry a girl whom he beheaded eventually anyways.
All that apart, I am curious to know what versus in Bible do you offer as proof that he Jesus and his Apostles instituted it? I hope you don't just say Isiah 22.
So here is my personal perspective. For 1,500 years there was just one church until the infamous German monk came around & edited the original bible, removing 7 books & adding words to justify his new theology. So one thing Protestants resist, reject or simply fail research is the Church's role in combating heresy, occult forces & secret societies centuries before they came along.
▪️Saint William of Norwich, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️saint Simon of Trent, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️Holy Child of Lagardia, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️14th Century, French Catholics execute the Knights Templar (forrunners to Freemasonry) for being Satanic gay bankers.
▪️15th Century, Catholic Authorities hunting down Lumbrosos (Illumaniti).
▪️1738. Pope Clement calls out Freemasons dead to rights & bans all Catholics from joining
Protestants sincerely believe that "true" Christianity began in 1517, but they fail to understand that their ongoing protest against the original Church further strengthen the Cabal & while weakening Christiandom (divide and conquer).
Lastly, analyze Martin Luthers crest looks EXACTLY like a Rosecrtian emblem. Is it too much of a stretch to contemplate the possibility that the "reformation" was a Cabal operation? .
Pontiff = Pontifex Maximus, leader of highest priestly order in Roman Empire.
After Julius Caesar the title became a prerogative of Roman Emperors, and they continued holding that title until it was passed to the Pope.
Pope Boniface VIII, publicly and on record, seated on the throne in Constantine, declared "I am Caesar" while adorned in imperial attire.
Knights Templar were created in 1119, nothing to do with Christianity, King Baldwin sent the recommendation to Pope to officially offer them a charter. They were running the worlds first major international banking for more than 200 years, acquiring immeasurable wealth and were used by the Christian kings as mercenaires before they were destroyed.
The reason for destroying the Templars was more to do with the political struggele between the Popes and King Phillip for France, and France being deeply in debt to the Templars (as is the end result of any usury) and wanting to take over the order which De Molay did not agree.
Of course when the Satanists throw one of their own under the bus they bring out the satanic crimes that everyone already knew. Just optics.
Ever wonder why so many old churches have spires on them? They represent exactly the same as the Washington Monument. The penis of Osiris. Because in the day they were Catholic Churches, in the night they were Satanic Churches.
There is so much we can keep digging into. And yes, like the criminals that FBI catches is 90% real criminals, but the remaining 10% are their real targets, and like how 90% of the FBI agents dont even know they are working for evil, the same is true for Catholic Church (and every other Satanic organisation).
The point is, Catholic Church was the facade the Satanic Roman Empire melted into when their power started crumbling, much like how the Nazis melted into the US Deep State after WW2.
Added: We cannot say the Catholic Church is the original church since there was no Catholic Church for 300 years after Jesus. So technically you can say its the first church but thats all.
Why do Protestant WASP Freemasons Larp as Catholic Knights templars? Look up the Knights Templar chapel in Alexandria, VA. The Templars were an honorable order until it was subverted by Gnostics.
Who executed the Templars? That's right, the Catholic Church. Who kicked out the Jew Bankers from France? Yup, Catholics.
Look up Knight Kadosh Masonic rite. They stab the Tripple Tiara (Pope) in effigy? Why? Because the Catholic Church the TRUE & ORIGINAL their enemy. The Pope Clement had them dead to rites in 1738 & banned Catholics from joining. Can you show me where your personal church has ever banned Masonry? Please provide proof.
The Judeo-masons were behind the "reformation" movement, Luther himself was influenced by the Kabbalah.
Look up the Keys of the Bastielle hanging in George Washington's house. The Satanic Freemasons double crossed the French Monarchy & Masons overthrew the Christian mobarch.
It would appear to be in the Catholic Church, is the only real church that the freemasons fear. Protestant WASP were okay being in bed with Judeo-Masons,kicking off revolutions around the world against Catholic lands but it would appear to me that Protestants have outlasted their usefulness & now the Jews are fooding your WASP countries, sending you guys off to war...again. Wasps must have never gotten the memo.
I never expect to convince anyone about the true nature of Catholic Church because for most people it is ultimately a question of belief and faith rather than objective fact, but I love these discussions.
However, I am interested in the objective facts - in this case the verses by Jesus that you believe establishes the Catholic Church, appoints the Pontiff and all outlines the various things preached by them as the only way of salvation.
Yes. A quick read of the Spiritual Exercises of Loyola shows the Jesuit order is Satanic to the core.
Interestigly enough, Loyola was caught up in the Spanish Inquisition while the Church was hunting down the Illumaniti. A full century before the heretical Protestant sects began popup.
So, we both can be technically correct. The Church is the Original Church fighting the enemies of Jesus Christ & the Jesuits may have never actually been a good order.