Professional photographer here for 2 decades chiming in. Is this the same photo people were saying used 1/8000th shutter speed? 1/8000 is extreme overkill for an event like this imo. You would only use this setting to capture fast moving objects, think car races, sports events, etc. Not a subject standing still at a podium. Even people dancing would easily be frozen sharp under 1/1000th in full sun like this. And you don't want to overkill your shutter speed for no reason because you are forced to raise your iso to compensate which makes for more grainy photos. No you want that crisp clear perfect photo, lowest iso possible, professional knows exactly what f-stop, shutter speed and iso combo they need for that perfect crisp photo. Personally I think 1/8000 is just overkill on the shutter for something like this, it's so far above what you would need, I would have prioritized iso and fstop instead, unless I thought I needed to be prepared to capture something at high speed. Now I'm not accusing him of anything, all photographers have their personal style and techniques so maybe he's just a high speed in broad daylight no matter the situation kind of guy who likes high iso and a nearly closed fstop.
Yes it's noise, but old timers like me still say "grain" sometimes, especially when communicating with clients because they understand what grain is but not noise. If he happened to get the bullet streak in focus at f1.6 then this photo is astronomical. At this point it depends on focal distance now, because at 1.6 it's not uncommon for a nose tip to be blurry when an eye is sharp. Maybe he was zoomed in at 200mm? I assumed he was 50-80mm, shot up close from below.
Agree. f 1.6 in sun, you would have a very small slice of "depth of field", even when zoomed at 400+mm. - also old school (used a nikon f3, fm, or cheapest hasselblad i could find)
It's not zoomed in. There is no 400mm f1.4. There's a thing called compression when you use telephotos. A minute of looking for the other shots or just looking at the podium you'd know it's no more than a 50mm lens and that image was cropped. At a distance the depth of field grows regardless of crop.
Depends on ASA. If he was rating it at 2800 digitally, that would be about 3-4 stops faster than normal. F16 would be able to give better depth of field. Also with such a bright day, even at ASA 400 there wouldn't be a problem digitally.
In other shots you can see the flag so the bullet image is cropped. Judging by the lack of compression between the podium, trump, flag and audiance it's not even an 85mm. It's probably the Sony FE 50mm f/1.2 GM Lens.
So being that far back the focal plane is enough for the streaking bullet to be just as you see it. Plus the podium is somewhat in focus giving you an idea.
I’m also a photographer, I wouldn’t use F1.6 while shooting with the sky as a background. At f4 you would have less risk of getting the shot out of focus. I found it very odd. He knew what was going to happen and wanted all the blod splats to be frozen. These people are sick.
Have you used a flagship camera made after 2018? There is no missing a shot with face tracking. Today's camera's nail focus like a motherfucker. You bring nothing to the discussion.
Okay, you'll be being a little bit uncivil here, hence your downvotes, please consider being a little nicer, but, you are essentially right. A friend of mine shoots my local NHL team and what his current camera can do, Canon R series, and holy cow, 20 frames per second at 50 megapixels, it's just absolutely insane. He walked me around and all of his slave robot cameras, this guy doesn't miss a goddamn shot
He said he was shooting the flag waving above the stage when the action started. Not sure how strong the wind was but maybe just compensating for movement.
I'm a former pro photographer as well, my last camera was a 1dx mark ii, and I mean this with all due respect but one 8,000th of a second is nothing with the anti-aliasing noise filters in the current rigs, and I'm still a decade behind with the equipment I'm describing. This is a well-lit daytime shot and I doubt you would see an ISO above 1,000 in the current rigs
No, the purpose of the photographer wasn't to capture solid, low noise, high quality pictures of the event. It was to capture 14 frames a second of Trump's head exploding. Bear that in mind.
Professional photographer here for 2 decades chiming in. Is this the same photo people were saying used 1/8000th shutter speed? 1/8000 is extreme overkill for an event like this imo. You would only use this setting to capture fast moving objects, think car races, sports events, etc. Not a subject standing still at a podium. Even people dancing would easily be frozen sharp under 1/1000th in full sun like this. And you don't want to overkill your shutter speed for no reason because you are forced to raise your iso to compensate which makes for more grainy photos. No you want that crisp clear perfect photo, lowest iso possible, professional knows exactly what f-stop, shutter speed and iso combo they need for that perfect crisp photo. Personally I think 1/8000 is just overkill on the shutter for something like this, it's so far above what you would need, I would have prioritized iso and fstop instead, unless I thought I needed to be prepared to capture something at high speed. Now I'm not accusing him of anything, all photographers have their personal style and techniques so maybe he's just a high speed in broad daylight no matter the situation kind of guy who likes high iso and a nearly closed fstop.
It's not grain, it's noise. Flagship camera's today have remarkably low noise.
https://petapixel.com/2022/01/18/the-nikon-z9-is-so-fast-it-can-capture-a-speeding-bullet/
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/can-doug-mills-photo-of-a-bullet-and-president-trump-be-real-yes-heres-how
"The Metadata reports f/1.6 at 1/8,000sec"
F1.6 is letting in a LOT of light, hence 1/8000's. Iso could have been 50-100. Noise would have been a non-issue.
Yes it's noise, but old timers like me still say "grain" sometimes, especially when communicating with clients because they understand what grain is but not noise. If he happened to get the bullet streak in focus at f1.6 then this photo is astronomical. At this point it depends on focal distance now, because at 1.6 it's not uncommon for a nose tip to be blurry when an eye is sharp. Maybe he was zoomed in at 200mm? I assumed he was 50-80mm, shot up close from below.
Agree. f 1.6 in sun, you would have a very small slice of "depth of field", even when zoomed at 400+mm. - also old school (used a nikon f3, fm, or cheapest hasselblad i could find)
It's not zoomed in. There is no 400mm f1.4. There's a thing called compression when you use telephotos. A minute of looking for the other shots or just looking at the podium you'd know it's no more than a 50mm lens and that image was cropped. At a distance the depth of field grows regardless of crop.
Depends on ASA. If he was rating it at 2800 digitally, that would be about 3-4 stops faster than normal. F16 would be able to give better depth of field. Also with such a bright day, even at ASA 400 there wouldn't be a problem digitally.
There's no sub f1.8 lens for a Sony that's 200mm.
In other shots you can see the flag so the bullet image is cropped. Judging by the lack of compression between the podium, trump, flag and audiance it's not even an 85mm. It's probably the Sony FE 50mm f/1.2 GM Lens.
So being that far back the focal plane is enough for the streaking bullet to be just as you see it. Plus the podium is somewhat in focus giving you an idea.
I have a 1.8 Canon Mark 2 85 mm but oh my god, nobody would use that lens for coverage
I’m also a photographer, I wouldn’t use F1.6 while shooting with the sky as a background. At f4 you would have less risk of getting the shot out of focus. I found it very odd. He knew what was going to happen and wanted all the blod splats to be frozen. These people are sick.
These people are sick and evil.
Have you used a flagship camera made after 2018? There is no missing a shot with face tracking. Today's camera's nail focus like a motherfucker. You bring nothing to the discussion.
Okay, you'll be being a little bit uncivil here, hence your downvotes, please consider being a little nicer, but, you are essentially right. A friend of mine shoots my local NHL team and what his current camera can do, Canon R series, and holy cow, 20 frames per second at 50 megapixels, it's just absolutely insane. He walked me around and all of his slave robot cameras, this guy doesn't miss a goddamn shot
He said he was shooting the flag waving above the stage when the action started. Not sure how strong the wind was but maybe just compensating for movement.
I'm a former pro photographer as well, my last camera was a 1dx mark ii, and I mean this with all due respect but one 8,000th of a second is nothing with the anti-aliasing noise filters in the current rigs, and I'm still a decade behind with the equipment I'm describing. This is a well-lit daytime shot and I doubt you would see an ISO above 1,000 in the current rigs
No, the purpose of the photographer wasn't to capture solid, low noise, high quality pictures of the event. It was to capture 14 frames a second of Trump's head exploding. Bear that in mind.