But then it's more about respect than fear, no? I don't want my children to fear me when they do wrong, I want them to come to me and to learn from the mistake they made. I think that God would see it this way as well.
It's the fear of consequences for your wrong actions. It's not your children fearing you, it's not you fearing God himself, but it's the fear of not having the life you want due to wrong decisions. That fear keeps you on the right path. It's kinda odd to say you have respect for that path, or that it is just respect for God, maybe you do, but how does that lead you anywhere? I can respect someone and not care one bit about what they say to me or do.
It's not fear, it's faith that keeps me on the right path. I've done many, many, many things wrong in my life. Many fucking things. With 14, on my confirmation, my saying was Psalm 23. I chose this by myself, I said it in the church, and God listened. My life then went totally nuts, drugs, lies, theft, ignorance, what not. I was never violent, never killed or hurt people physically, but I did many strange things.
Instead of punishing me, God decided otherwise. He led me on a path I'd never had chosen on my own, ending up in a marriage and two beautiful children and a life full of love. But between 14 and 40 I did so many things wrong, it's a wonder I'm still alive. There were milestones layed down in this period of time that only paid out later in my life.
With 14 I said "The Lord is my Shepherd", and then the Lord sent me on a very strange journey. I've been strange before 14ys, but that was the time the Lord decided to take control.
Now that I'm settled, with 51ys old finally, I found back to the Lord, recognizing that he led me to where I am. And what I don't do is fear him I love him, I praise him, I enjoy the spirit of Jesus, I live a life of faith and love. I have bad moments, yes, but I don't fear. Nothing, not even the Lord. Because I do no wrong willingly. I made mistakes, I make mistakes, but the Lord guides me, and he forgives me, because he made me. I'm his child, and children act weired from time to time.
You only have to fear God, when you worship Satan. Only when your wrongdoing is intentional. When you refuse God. When you enjoy evil. Otherwise, just love him and let him guide you.
That's my take, I may be wrong, but I think I'm not.
Do not disagree with anything your saying. There's a little semantics going on, but the verse directly says "fear", yet I also do not think that implies to live a life in fear. And I certainly didn't imply that one does not make mistakes in life, or that God wants you to live mistake free life to so speak, it's impossible. But it's just like Trump was talking about yesterday, you have to want to be good, you have to want to go to heaven, be afraid of not going to heaven, so that you life a live striving as best you can to be that person.
I agree. You have to want to be good. I believe that's within our DNA, because: what reason is there to want to be bad? It's not intrinsic, it's extrinsic. We are born good, and then Evil kicks in and tries to deceive you. Either you fall for it, or you fight an invisible fight against it, with the help of God, sometimes even without realizing. But realize you will, at a certain point.
Semantics, yeah, English is not my native language, so something might sound strange, and I might understand things wrong. I do my best.
Fear is the fear of His wrath for denouncing His wants by our actions.
The fear of God is an Old Testament concept as where the unconditional love of God is through Christ’s sacrifice.
But then it's more about respect than fear, no? I don't want my children to fear me when they do wrong, I want them to come to me and to learn from the mistake they made. I think that God would see it this way as well.
It's the fear of consequences for your wrong actions. It's not your children fearing you, it's not you fearing God himself, but it's the fear of not having the life you want due to wrong decisions. That fear keeps you on the right path. It's kinda odd to say you have respect for that path, or that it is just respect for God, maybe you do, but how does that lead you anywhere? I can respect someone and not care one bit about what they say to me or do.
It's not fear, it's faith that keeps me on the right path. I've done many, many, many things wrong in my life. Many fucking things. With 14, on my confirmation, my saying was Psalm 23. I chose this by myself, I said it in the church, and God listened. My life then went totally nuts, drugs, lies, theft, ignorance, what not. I was never violent, never killed or hurt people physically, but I did many strange things.
Instead of punishing me, God decided otherwise. He led me on a path I'd never had chosen on my own, ending up in a marriage and two beautiful children and a life full of love. But between 14 and 40 I did so many things wrong, it's a wonder I'm still alive. There were milestones layed down in this period of time that only paid out later in my life.
With 14 I said "The Lord is my Shepherd", and then the Lord sent me on a very strange journey. I've been strange before 14ys, but that was the time the Lord decided to take control.
Now that I'm settled, with 51ys old finally, I found back to the Lord, recognizing that he led me to where I am. And what I don't do is fear him I love him, I praise him, I enjoy the spirit of Jesus, I live a life of faith and love. I have bad moments, yes, but I don't fear. Nothing, not even the Lord. Because I do no wrong willingly. I made mistakes, I make mistakes, but the Lord guides me, and he forgives me, because he made me. I'm his child, and children act weired from time to time.
You only have to fear God, when you worship Satan. Only when your wrongdoing is intentional. When you refuse God. When you enjoy evil. Otherwise, just love him and let him guide you.
That's my take, I may be wrong, but I think I'm not.
Do not disagree with anything your saying. There's a little semantics going on, but the verse directly says "fear", yet I also do not think that implies to live a life in fear. And I certainly didn't imply that one does not make mistakes in life, or that God wants you to live mistake free life to so speak, it's impossible. But it's just like Trump was talking about yesterday, you have to want to be good, you have to want to go to heaven, be afraid of not going to heaven, so that you life a live striving as best you can to be that person.
I agree. You have to want to be good. I believe that's within our DNA, because: what reason is there to want to be bad? It's not intrinsic, it's extrinsic. We are born good, and then Evil kicks in and tries to deceive you. Either you fall for it, or you fight an invisible fight against it, with the help of God, sometimes even without realizing. But realize you will, at a certain point.
Semantics, yeah, English is not my native language, so something might sound strange, and I might understand things wrong. I do my best.
Fear is the fear of His wrath for denouncing His wants by our actions. The fear of God is an Old Testament concept as where the unconditional love of God is through Christ’s sacrifice.