The Romans Road
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@UltraMagaOK, your concern about original sin and its impact on newborns is understandable. The doctrine of original sin can indeed seem harsh at first glance. However, it's important to remember a few things from a theological perspective:
Human Nature: The concept of original sin doesn't mean that newborns are guilty of specific sins like lying or stealing. Instead, it points to the inherent human tendency towards sin, which we can observe in how children naturally exhibit selfish behaviors.
Age of Accountability: Many Christians believe in an age of accountability, where young children are seen as innocent and not held accountable for their actions until they reach an age where they can understand right and wrong (See below verses).
Redemption and Grace: The core of Christianity is the belief that Jesus Christ came to redeem humanity from sin. This includes the effects of original sin. God's grace is abundant, and children are often seen under His special care and mercy.
Parental Guidance: Parents play a crucial role in guiding their children towards understanding moral and ethical behavior. Teaching children to tell the truth and respect others is part of nurturing their growth and countering the natural inclinations towards selfishness.
@GMFactual, you raised a good point about whether we have to teach children to lie or steal. It seems that these behaviors come naturally, which aligns with the biblical view of a sinful nature. However, teaching them not to do these things is part of our responsibility as parents and guardians.
Here are 2 verses that point to the idea of the "Age of Accountability"
Deuteronomy 1:39 (NIV)
Isaiah 7:15-16 (NIV)
I think no amount of lying and stealing throughout a finite life warrants infinite punishment. It's very far from kind and loving. This god is sick.
I get where you’re coming from, and it’s definitely a tough concept to wrap your head around. The idea of eternal punishment for finite actions can seem really harsh, especially when we think about it from our human perspective.
It’s not just about individual acts like lying or stealing. Sin, in the Christian view, is more about being separated from a perfectly holy God. Since God is infinitely holy, even the smallest sin is a big deal in that context.
From our standpoint, eternal punishment seems overkill. But God’s sense of justice is perfect and way beyond what we can fully grasp. His understanding of sin’s impact is on a cosmic level that we can't always see.
God gave us free will to choose Him or not. Hell is seen not just as punishment but as a consequence of choosing to live apart from God. It’s like God respects our choices to the point that He lets us decide our eternal destiny.
The core of Christianity is that God provided a way out through Jesus. Jesus’ death and resurrection offer a way to reconcile with God, highlighting His love and mercy. Salvation is a free gift available to everyone who wants it.
The Bible says God doesn’t want anyone to perish but wants everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9). He offers salvation to all, which shows His loving and kind nature.
I hope this gives you a different perspective. It’s definitely a challenging topic, but it’s worth exploring further. Thanks for the thoughtful discussion!
You can say it's perfect but I'm not buying it.
What person can steal and lie their entire life I never be held accountable. you’re OK with that?
so you’re OK with the DNC line to everybody every day while they’re on the campaign trail?
You’re OK with people loading and stealing from stores and places like California and Chicago, without any consequences?
People can sit with impunity and never be held accountable?
This is something that Satan would say. I’m not your father, and that’s who you listen to. How sad is that?
You have an opportunity right now to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. You now know the truth, and now it’s your choice. 🤷♀️
God doesn’t owe us anything, but he gave us everything.
Yeah, "held accountable" - for all eternity. For misdemeanors and non-crimes. Yuck. It's dumb and obviously not real. It is made only to control us.
“for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:23 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rom.3.23.NKJV
“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 6:23 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rom.6.23.NKJV
“But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rom.5.8.NKJV
“For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”” Romans 10:13 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rom.10.13.NKJV
“that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” Romans 10:9 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rom.10.9.NKJV
“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.” Romans 8:1 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rom.8.1.NKJV
Dear God:
I know I have sinned and that my sin separates me from You. I am sorry for my sin. I believe Jesus died on the cross for me so my sin can be forgiven. I believe Jesus rose from the dead and is alive.
God, please forgive me. I ask Jesus to come into my heart and be my Lord and Savior. I will obey you, follow you, and honor you.
Amen